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point, the matter foremost in their minds, when spondence to be kept up witb my charity boys, they call back this witness for his re-examina- when on board of ship, as the nature of their tion, appears to have been these drives towards situation will admit of, and as Mr. Sicard is the Long Reach.Can it have been for any purpose person who manages all matters concerning but to have the benefit of the insinuation, to them, and enters into their interests with the leave it open to be inferred, that those drives most friendly anxiety, he certainly was apprized were for the purpose of meeting Captain Manby of the probability of the ship's arrival off SouthIf this fact was material, why in the name of end, before she came. And here I may as well justice was it so left? Mrs. Fitzgerald was men- perhaps, by the way, remark, that as this cortioned by paine, as accompanying me in them respondence with the boys is always under cover all: Why was not she called? She perhaps was to the captain ; this circumstance may account my confidant; no truth could have been hoped to your Majesty for the fact, wbich is stated by for from her;- still there were my coachman and some of the witnesses, of several letters being helper, who likewise accompanied me; why put into the post by Sicard, some of which he may were they not called? they are not surely confi- have received from me, which were directed to dants too. But it is, for what reason I cannot Captain Manby.- -Soon after the arrival of the pretend to say, thought sufficient to leave this Africaine, however, Bidgood says, the Captain fact, or rather this insinuation, upon the evi- pat off in his boat. Sicard went to meet him, dence of Mr. Bidgood, who only saw, or could and immediately brought him up to me and my see the way I went when I set out upon my | Ladies ;- he dined there then, and came fredrive, instead of having the fact from the per- | quently to see me. It would have been as cansons who could speak to the whole of it; to the did if Mr. Bidgood had represented the fact as it places I went to ; to the persons whom I met really was, though perhaps the circumstance is with. Your Majesty will think me justified in not very material :~that the Captain bronght the dwelling upon this, the more from this circum- two boys on shore with him to see me, and this, stance, because I know, and will shew to your as well as many other circumstances connected Majesty on the testimony of Jonathan Partridge, with these boys, the existence of whom, as acwhich I annex, that these drives, or at least one counting in any degree for the intercourse beof them, have been already the object of pre- tween me and Captain Manby, could never vions, and, I believe, pearly cotemporary in. have been collected from out of Bidgood's depo. vestigation. The truth is, that it did happen sitions, Sicard would have stated, if the Com. npon two of these drives that I met with Captain missioners had examined him to it. But though Manby ; IN ONE of them that he joined me, and he is thus referred to, though his name is menwent with me to Lord Eardley's at Belvidere, and tioned about the letters sent to Captain Manby, that he partook of something which we had to eat: he does not appear to have been examined to that some of Lord Eardley's servants were ex- any of them, and all that he appears to have amined as to ny conduct upon this occasion ;- been asked is, as to his remembering Captain and am confidently informed that the servants Manby visiting at Montague House, and to my gave a most satisfactory account of all that paying the expense of the linen furniture for his passed; nay, that they felt, and have expressed, cabin. But Mr. Sicard was, I suppose, represome honest indignation at the foul suspicion sented by my enemies to be a confidant, from which the examination implied. On the other whom no truth could be extracted, and there. occasion, having the boys to go on board the fore that it was idle waste of time to examine Africaine, I went with one of my ladies to see him to such points; and so upquestionably he, them on board, and Captain Manby joined us and every other honest servant in my family, in our walk round Mr. Calcraft's grounds at In- who could be supposed to know any thing upon gress Park, opposite to Long Reach; where we the subject, were sure to be represented by walked while my horses were baiting. We went those, whose conspiracy and falsehooil, their into no bousc, and on that occasion had no- honesty and truth were the best means of dething to eat. -Perfectly unable to account tecting. The conspirators, bowever, had the why these facts were not more fully inquired first word, and unfortunately their veracity was into if thought proper to be inquired into not questioned, nor their unfavourable bias sus. at all, I return again to Mr. Bidgood's evi. pected. dence. As far as it respects my conduct at Mr. Bidgood then proceeds to state the situa. Montague House, it is confined to the circum- tion of the houses, two of which, with a part of stances which I have already mentioned. And, a third I had at Southend. He describes No.9, upon those circumstances, I have no further as the house in which I slept; No. 8, as that in observation which may tend to illustrate Mr. which we dined ; and No. 7, as containing a Bidgood's credit to offer. But I trust if, from drawing-room, to which we retired after dinner. other parts of his evidence, your Majesty sees And he says, “ I have several times seen the traces of the strongest prejudices against me, “ Princess, after having gone to No. 7, with and the most scandalous inferences, drawn from aptain Manby and the rest of the company, circumstances which can in no degree support retire with Captain Manby from No.7, through them, your Majesty will then be able justly to “ No. 8, to No. 9, which was the house where appreciate the credit due to every part of Mr. " the Princess slept. I suspect that Captain Bidgood's evidence.---Under the other head, “ Manby slept very frequently in the house. into which I have divided this part of the case, “ Hints were given by the servants, and I believe I mean my conduct at Southend as relative to " that others suspected it as well as myself."Captain Manby, Mr. Bidgood is more substan. What those hints were, by what servants given, tial and particular. His statement on this head are things which do not seem to have been begins by shewing that I was at Southend about thought necessary matters of inquiry. At least six weeks before the Africaine, Captain Manby's there is no trace in Mr. Bidgood's, or any other ship arrived. That Mr. Sicard was looking out witness's examination, of any such inquiry having for its arrival, as if she was expected. And as been made. it is my practice to require as constant a corre- In his second deposition, which applies to
the same fact, after saying that we went away were exposed to sight, as if to declare that he the day after the Africaine sailed from Southend, was there. It is tedious and disgusting, Sire, I he
says, Captain Manby was there three times am well aware, to trouble your Majesty with a week at the least, while his ship lay for six such particulars; but it doubtless is true, that I “ weeks off Southend at the Nore;-he came as bid him not to take the candles away from No. 9. “ tide served in a morning, and to dine, and The candles which are used in my drawing-room, “ drink tea. I have seen him next morning by are considered as his perquisites. Those on the " ten o'clock. I suspected he slept at No. 9, the contrary which are used in my private apartment “ Princess's. She always put out the candles are the perquisites of my maid. I thought that “herself in the drawing-room at No. 9, and bid upon the whole it was a fairer arrangement, when
me not wait to put them up. She gave me the I was at Southend, to give my maid the perqui“ orders as soon as she went to Southend. I used sites of the candles used at No. 9; and I made
to see water jugs, basons, and towels, set out the arrangement accordingly, and ordered Mr.
opposite the Princess's door in the passage. Bidgood to leave them. This, Sire, is the true ** Never saw them so left in the passage at any account of the fact respecting the candles; an * other time, and I suspected he was there at that arrangement which very possibly Mr. Bidgood
time; there was a general suspicion through did not like. But the putting out the candles the house.
Mrs. and Miss Fitzgerald there, myself, was not the only thing, from which the and Miss Hammond (now Mrs. Hood) there. inference is drawn, that Captain Manby slept at My suspicion arose from seeing them in the my house, at No. 9, and as is evidently insinuat
glass,” &c. as mentioned before. “Her beha- ed, if not stated, in my bed-room. There were « viour like that of a woman attached to a map'; water jugs, and basons, and towels left in the "used to be by themselves at luncheon, at South- passage, which Mr. Bidgood never saw at other end, when the ladies were not sent for; a num
times. At what other times does he mean? At " ber of times. There was a poney which Cap other times than those at which he suspected, “ tain Manby used to ride ; it stood in the stable from seeing them there, that Captain Manby “ ready for him, and which Sicard used to ride." slept in my house? If every time he saw the baThen he says, the servants used to talk and sons and towels, &c. in the passage, he suspectlaugh about Captain Mauby, and that it was ed Captain Manby slept there, it certainly would matter of discourse amongst them; and this, follow that he never saw them at times when he with what has been alluded to before, respeot- did not suspect that fact. But Sire, upon this ing Sicard's putting letters for bim into the post, important fact, important to the extent of conwhich he had received from me, contains the victing me, if it were true, of High Treason, if whole of his deposition as far as respects Captain it were not for the indignation which such scanManby. And, Sire, as to the fact of retiring dalous licentious wickedness and malice excite, through No. 8, from No. 7, to No. 9, alone wiih it would hardly be possible to treat it with any Captain Mauby, I have no recollection of ever gravity. Whether there were or were not basons having gone with Captain Manby, though but and towels sometimes left in a passage at Southfor a moment, from the one room in which the end, which were not there generally, and ought company was sitting, through the dining room to to have been never there, I really cannot inform the other drawing-room. It is, however, now your Majesty. It certainly is possible, but the above two years ago, and to be confident that utmost it can prove, I should trust, might be such a circumstance might not leave happened, is some slovenliness in niy servant, who did not put more than I will undertake to be. But in the on- them in their proper places; but surely it must ly sense in which he uses the expression, as re- be left to Mr. Bidgood alone to trace any evitiring alone, coupled with the immediate context dence, from such a circumstance, of the crime that follows, it is most false and scandalons. I of adultery in me. But I cannot thus leave this know no means of absolutely proving a negative. fact, for I trust I shall here again have the same If the fact was true, there must have been other advantage from the excess and extravagance of witnesses who could liave proved it as well as this man's malice, as I have already had on the Mr. Bidgood." Mrs. Fitzgerald is the only per- other part of the charge, from the excess and exson of the party, who was examined, and her travagance of his contederate Lady Douglas. evidence proves the negative so far as the nega- What is the charge that he would insinuate? That
tive. 'can be proved; for she says, "he dined | I meditated and effected a stolen, secret, clan,“ there, but never staid late. She was at South-destine intercourse with an adultérer? No. 6 end all the time I was there, and cannot recol Captain Manby, it seems according to his insimu6 lect to have seen Captain Manby there, oration, slept with me in my own house, under “ known him to be there, later than nine, orhalf circumstances, of such notoriety that it was im
past nine.” Miss Fitzgerald and Miss Ham- possible that any of my female attendants at mond, (now Mrs. Hood) are not called to this least should not have known it. Their duties fact; although a fact so extremely important, as were varied on the occasion; they had to supply it must appear to your Majesty ; nor indeed are basons and towels in places where they never they examined at all. As to the putting out of the were supplied, except when prepared for him ; candles, it seems he says, I have the orders as and they were not only purposely so prepared, but soon as I went to Southend, which was six weeks prepared in an open passage, exposed to view, in before the Africaine arrived; so this plan of ex- a manner to excite the suspicion of those who cluding him from the opportunity of knowing were not admitted into the secret. And what what was going on at No. 9, was part of a long- a secret was it, that was thus to be '
hazarded! meditated scheme, as he wonld represent it, No less than what, if discovered, would fix planned and thonght of six weeks before it could Captain Manby and myself with High Treason! be executed; and which when it was executed, | Not only therefore must I have been thus careyour Majesty will recollect, according to Mr. less of reputation, and eager for infamy; but I Bidyocd's evidence, there was so little contri- must have been careless of my life, as of my hovance to conceal, that the basons and towels, nour.--Lost to all sense of shame, surely I which the Captain is insinuated to bave used, must have still retained some regard for life.
Captain Manby too with a folly and madness known it; as your Majesty finds one witness apequal to his supposed iniquity, must then have pealing to another, who is pointed out as a person put his life in the hands of my servants and de- who must have been able, with equal means of pended for his safety upon their fidelity to me, knowledge, to have confirmed her if she spoke and their perfidy to the Prince their master. true, and to have contradicted her if she spoke If the excess of vice and crime in all this is false. And, Sire, when added to all this, your believed, could its indiscretion, its madness, fiud Majesty is graciously pleased to recollect that credulity to adopt it almost upon any evidence? Mr. Bidgood was one of those who, though in But what must be the state of that man's mind, my service, submitted themselves voluntarily to as to prejudice, who could come to the conclu- be examined previous to the appointment of the sion of believing it, from the fact of some water- Commissioners, in confirmation of Lady Dougjugs and towels being found in an unusual place, las's statement, without informing me of the in a passage near my bed-room? For as to his fact; and when I state to your Majesty, upon suspicion being raised by what he says he saw in the evidence of Philip Krackeler and Robert the looking-glass, if it was as true as it is false, Eaglestone, whose deposition I annex, that this that could not occasion, his believing, on any unbiassed witness, during the pendency of these particular night, that Captain Manby slept in my examinations before the Commissioners, was seen house; the situation of these towels and basons to be in conference and communication with is what leads to that belief.--But, Sire, may Lady Douglas, my most ostensible accuser, do-I I ask, did the Commissioners believe this man's raise my expectations too high, when I confi.. suspicions ? If they did, what do they mean by dently trust that his malice and his falsehood, as saying that these facts of great indecency, &e. well as his connexion in this conspiracy against went to a much less extent than the principal my honour, my station in this kingdom, and my charges? And that it was not for them to state life, will appear to your Majesty too plainly for their bearing and effect? The bearing of this him to receive any credit, either in this or any fact unquestionably, if believed, is the same other part of his testimony.- The other cir as that of the principal charge: namely, to cumstances to which he speaks, are comparaprove me guilty of High Treason. They there. tively too trifling for me to trouble your Majesty fore could not believe it. But if they did not with any more observations upon his evidence. believe it, and as it seems to me, Sire, no men -The remaining part of the case which reof common judgment could, on such a statement, spects Captain Manby, relates to my conduct at how could they bring themselves to name Mr. East Cliff. -How little Mrs. Lisle's examipa. Bidgood as one of those witnesses on whose un- tion affords for observations upon this part of the biassed testimony they could so rely? or how case, except as shewing how very seldom Capcould they, (in pointing him out with the other tain Manby called upon me while I was there, I three as speaking to facts, particularly with re- have already observed. Mr. Cole says nothing spect to Captain Manby, which must be credited upon this part of the case; nor Mr. Bidgood. till decidedly contradicted, omit to specify the The only witness amongst the four whose testifacts which he spoke to that they thus thought monies are distinguished by the Commissioners as worthy of belief, but leave the whole, including most material, and as those on which they partithis incredible part of it, recommended to be- cularly rely, who says any thing upon this part of Jief by their general and unqualified sanction the case, is Fanny Lloyd. Her deposition is as and approbation.
follows: “ I.was at Ranisgate with the PrinBut the falsehood of this charge does not cess in 1803. One morning wben we were rest on its incredibility alone. My servant Mrs. “ in the house at East Cliff, somebody, I don't Sander, who attended constantly on my person, “ recollect who, knocked at my door, and deand whose bed-room was close to mine, was ex- sired me to prepare breakfast for the Princess. amined by the Commissioners; she must lave “ This was about six o'clock; I was asleep. known this fact if it had been true; she posi- “ During the whole time I was in the Princess's tively swears, “ that she did not know or believe service, I had never been called up before to that Captain Mauby staid till very late hours " make the Princess's breakfast. slept in the with me; that she never suspected there was any “ housekeeper's room, on the ground Hoor. I improper familiarity between us. M. Wilson, “ opened the shutters of the window for light, who made my bed, swears, that she had been in “ I knew at that time that Captain Manby's ship the habit of making it ever since she lived with was in the Downs. When I opened the shutme; that another maid, whose name was. Ann.“ ters, I saw the Princess walking down the Bye, assisted with her in making it, and swears 6 Gravel. Walk towards the sea. No orders had from what she observed, that she never had any “ been given me over-night to prepare breakfast reason to believe that two persons had slept in it. “ early. The gentleman the Princess was with Referring thus by name to her fellow-servant, was a tall inan. I was surprised to see the who made the bed with her ; but that servant, “ Princess walking, with a gentleman at that why I know not, is not examined. As your time in the morning. I am sure it was the Majesty then finds the inference drawn by Bid“ Princess.”- -What this evidence of Fanny good to amount to a fact so openly and undis. Lloyd applies to, I do not feel certain that I reguisedly profligate, as to outrage all credibility; collect. The circumstances which she mentions as your Majesty finds it negatived by the evi- might, I think, have occurred twice while I was dence of three witnesses, one of whom, in par. there, and which time she alludes to, I cannot ticular, if such a fact were true, must have
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bility; and, as the Princess's defence does,
in my opinion, demolish the testimony of OF BURSLEDON, IN LOWER DUBLIN Town- the other three, Mrs. Lisle alone remains as SHIP, IN PHILADELPHIA County, IN THE
a witness whose testimony has some weight. STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA; ON MATTERS It was, therefore, in the opinion of Mr. PELATING TO HER ROYAL HIGHNESS THE Whitbread, of great consequence to explain PRINCESS OF WALES.
every circumstance relating to the mode
which the Four Lords pursued in getting Letter VI.
at and in recording this testimony. I will My dear Friend,
not, for fear of mistakes, attempt to make This Letter will conclude the remarks any abstract, or abridgment, of his speech which I mean to address to you, relative to upon this occasion; but, will insert it just the interesting affair of the Princess of as I find it reported in the Times newsWales. I have, indeed, already gone into paper of the 18th of March, that being the the whole of the subject as far as it is ne- fullest report that I have been able to find cessary for me to go into it, seeing that the of Mr. Whitbread's speech, which, as far Defence of the Princess leaves so very little as related to the subject before us, was as to be said by any one. But, there have follows: “ He must,” he said, “ trouble arisen certain matters, forming the sequel
66 the House for a few minutes with some of the disclosure, which are well worthy |“ passages in Mrs. Lisle's evidence, relaof your attention; and, of these, the most “ tive to the Princess and Captain Manby. important are, the debates, or, rather, the " Mrs. L. could not say there was any atremarks and counter-remarks, which have " tachment; and she never saw any kissing been made in the two Houses of Parlia" hands, &c. He wished to confine himment, relative to the deposition of Mrs. " self to material points. After the eviLisle, which deposition you will find in “dence was given, the depositions were the Register, at page 393.
"taken ; and he was not surprised, under MR. WHITBREAD, in the House of Com- “ all the circumstances, at Mrs. Lisle's mons, on the 17th of March, last past, re- signature to the deposition; but he was, ferred to this affidavit, or deposition, and " he must confess, surprised to find leading he animadverted upon the conduct of the “ questions put to her by his Learned Four Lords, who took it down. The Four " Friend, the Lord Chancellor Erskine ; Lords, in their place, in the House of " questions on which that Noble and LearnLords, a few days afterwards, entered into " ed Lord, when an advocate, would have an explanation, vindicated their own con. expired, sooner than have permitted to duct, and spoke in very severe terms of the “ be answered by any witness of his, on a attack which had been made upon thein. " trial in a Court of Law. One would be
Before I enter further into this matter, 1 " tempted by the deposition to think, that beg you to observe, that it is of very great "s Mrs. L. said all in one breath as it were. importance; because, as you will have ". The question in the examination was put perceived, of the whole of that crowd of " to Mrs. L.' " Did Captain Manby sit witnesses, who were examined upon this “ next to the Princess at dinner!" Yet, in occasion, Mrs. Lisle is the only one, to "the deposition, it seemed as if she stated
" whose testimony the Princess appears to at- voluntarily. Then Lord Erskine asks tach any importance; and, indeed, she is " Mrs. L. " whether they all sat just as
; , the only witness whose testimony seems to the four Noble Lords sat round their merit any serious refutation. She is, as " table with her?" Mr. W, remarked on was observed in my last Letter, one of the “ various other questions put to Mrs. L., four persons, upon whose testimony the" and expressed his astonishment that so charge of impropriety of conduct did, in " many leading questions should have been the eyes of the Four Lords, rest for credi- " put to her. “What did the Princess
" she says,
" and Captain Manby sit apart? What, if “putation upon her! Let Gentlemen " sitting together, do you suppose they bring to their consideration the situation 66 talked about.?!' Lords Erskine and El- " of their own wives, sisters, and daugh“ lenborough put these questions; and then "ters. When they left home to attend " the deposition is to go out to the world to their public or private business, would
" \to impress the sense of guilt on the part " they not treat with contempt and scorn,
of the Princess. The answer of Mrs. L. 66 evidence such as this, if it was attempted “ regarding the conversation was, that she to charge criminality upon it? (Hear,
“ 66 did not listen to it. Then Lord Erskine " hear.) They might be disposed to pro 66 desires her to answer him, as a woman 66 secute the calumniator: but Her Royal " of reason, character, and of knowledge “Highness did not stand in the situation 65 of the world, whether the Princess's 66 of a person for whom such steps could "condụct was proper for a married woman
66 be taken. He was ashamed of soine "-he puts it to her honour as a mother? parts of the examination. It was asked, $ Really, there never was a question put to or whether she went out with Mr. Hood in
a female witness which could make the a whiskey? Whether he drove it? This “ chords of sensibility vibrate njore strong. was something like the mode of cross”ly in her heart. The answer was col.
66 examination. 16 Who was there besides §6 lected, dignified, affectionate, and mo- 6. Mr. Hood's servant ?' 6. Was he a man " therly, for the question referred to her or a boy” (4 laugh.) 'How often
a ?' ( own family: my daughter,'
os did she go out so ?'
Was it fair-play 6666 lived well with her husband.” To the" to the Princess to extract answers in chat
question again, whether the Princess 6 manner? Then they came to Mr. Ches-'
lived as a married womn ought? Mrs. ter, who was stated to be ' a pretty "Li's answer was, not like the statement in young man.' (A laugh.) This was at the deposition, Lord Ellenborough, in- too ludicrous to be serious, and yet too só deed, said to the Chancellor,” I suppose 56 serious to be ludicrous. The inference ss you'd put it as any married woman. " seeined to be, that there was a prepos. así What did you
ever think of the " session for him, because he was hand, “ Princess's talking with Captain Manby?" "some. It was asked, Is he not hand. another question : but these were some ' The answer. was,
pretty?' never answered, though we had some- 6. All that was nauseous had been read
; « thing about them in the deposition. He " but he should notice one point: the wit" was sorry to be obliged io animadvert “ness was asked, “Do you recollect the s upon the couduct of the four Noble “ Princess getting up and going out of her " Lords Coinmissioners; but he should be room into another at night, for a light ?? \ doing injustice to the cause of justice, if Answer, I do. ' Why,' say two law. " he did not say, that, if the accused had
yers, • did she get up in the night ?? s been provided with an advocate, wit-" (laugh.) Yet this was in the deposia nesses would have been protected, or « tion; and the shakers of heads continued "prevented from answering many inter" to shake, because Mrs. Lisle had de" rogatories that were put to them. "The posed so and so. That was not a fair * Princess, says Mrs. L., is free and construction of Mrs. L.'s evidence, if $ condescending.' 'That," says the Chan- 66 the examinations were read. • I heard
cellor, ' is not my queslion. I thought,'" Her Royal Highness say,' says the witsays Mrs. L., • that the Princess liked
That she had been ill, and that fé to talk with Captain Manby, rather than 66 her candle was gone out.' Was not the 66 with The Ladies.' Let the House recol. • Princess to be in a situation common to $6 lect, that there were, and are attached every subject of the realm? The public 56 to the Princess, persons of high consi- 66 mind must form her shield, and her ” deration ; yet could any body doubt that " “ protection. Read the evidence, and say " when new society, which afforded new os ivhether she has uot a right to be treated “ topics of conversation, broke in upon the “as innocent, till she be proved guilty. 46 sameness--the fatigue of retired and
“ Mrs. L.'s testimony gives an easy, nak mock royalty,--debarred from many “tural, and probable solution, of this
sources of amusement,-- yet uncompen- mysterious transaction. (Hear.d Mr. 66 sated by even the trappings of her state, 66 Chester, it seems, walked out twice " could any body doubt, or be surprised, " with the Princess; and he was left at 15 that the Princess should find something, “ Lord Sheffield's.
Then for Captain s in it agreeable? Yet that was an im- " Moore. He dined there, and where, it