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to attend to it; and I will say that if the Senate in the world why we should go into an organiza. || the duties intended to be assigned to the individual continues meeting at the time at which we now tion of the officers of the Senate at the close of this embraced in the resolution, and I therefore demeet, and are in session the only time when we special session. I have heard a great deal on this sire to give the Secretary time to make the seleccan see the members of the Cabinet, I shall be subject. I have read some things about it, and I tion. It is a matter of very little patronage. compelled to leave ihe Senate at some hour of the am strongly disposed to think that the officers of Three hundred dollars a year, for the convenience day to attend to my business at the Departments. | the Senate, the police officers, the ministerial of the Senate!
Mr. PETTIT. I simply desire to say to the agents, and probably those in the office of the Mr. BORLAND. Eighteen hundred dollars. Senator from Wisconsin, that I object to one of Secretary of the Senate may want some organiza. Mr. ADAMS. That is the salary which the his remarks, and that is the one which indicates tion. I'am disposed to think it would be found resolution proposes to allow; but the Secretary is that we are idle in the forenoon. I do not know expedient at the commencement of the next ses- now authorized to give $1,500, if he should choose any Senator who is idle. (Laughter.]
sion to refer the subject to a committee to ascertain to appoint a person. Talk about patronage! Eco. Mr. SEWARD. I desire to ask the Senator what the existing organization is, and inquire into nomical as l'usually am, no objection on the score from Wisconsin, whether the Cabinet have ex- the necessity which may exist for reorganization. of economy entered into my mind to such a proppressed any particular desire to see more of the If no other Senator should move in it, I may feel osition. But as I said before, I have no feeling in Senate than they can see now? If they have not, it incumbent upon me to ask for a committee at the matter. If it is the pleasure of the Senate to I shall object to the resolution.
the next session to take into consideration the re- postpone it indefinitely, I have a convenient seat Mr. WALKER. We are not consulting their | organization of the whole department of our offi- near the desk, where I can hear any reading that comfort. We do not propose to ask them when For the present, however, to test the sense may be thought necessary. I have deemed it a we shall go; and I do not propose to ask the Sen- of the Senate, I move that the resolution lie upon matter of importance, for the convenience of the ator from New York, nor will my constituents, the table.
Secretary, that the Secretary should have the opwho have imposed the duty upon me be likely to The motion was not agreed to, there being on a portunity of selecting the individual. Having conask him, as to when and how I shall attend to the division-ayes 14, noes 18.
fidence, as I have, in his discretion, I embraced in duty. I presume those of us who have business Mr. BUTLER. I am sure such an officer as the resolution the privilege of suffering him to to attend to, will do it whether the Cabinet are the resolution proposes to appoint is not necessary make the appointment. All I ask now is a vote. willing to see us or not.
now. The desk does not require it; the business Mr. WALKER. It is said that the Secretary The PRESIDING OFFICER. As the con- of the Senate does not require it; and who is it has the power to appoint a $1,500 clerk, and that sideration of the resolution is objected to, it goes that requires an additional officer at this timemat the resolution, in its operation, only increases the over one day under the rule.
the close of this session? Is the resolution pro- ll pay $300. Now, sir, we are at the close of an EXECUTIVE SESSION.
posed with the view that the Secretary shall select Executive session; very nearly nine months are to
from his own clerks one to fill the office, or select pass away before we shall enter upon the duties On motion by Mr. MASON, the Senate pro- one that he may think entirely suitable? or is it of another session; and suppose the Secretary ceeded to the consideration of Executive business, that there is somebody who wants the office, who should now exercise the power to appoint a readand after sime time spent therein, the doors were is in the view of the gentleman who moves the ing clerk at $1,500 per annum, three fourths of reopened, resolution?
whose salary would run on when he had not a And the Senate adjourned.
Mr. ADAMS. If the Senator will allow me, I word of reading to do, what would you say? For will inform him that the resolution authorizes the one, I am in favor of visiting, by investigation and
Secretary to select whoever he may think proper. punishment, those who are guilty of wrong-doing; TUESDAY, March 29, 1853.
Mr. BUTLER. Iunderstand a little behind these and I say emphatically that I should be after him, Prayer by the Rev. J. G. Butler.
things. (Laughter.) I suppose the Secretary has for one, if he should exercise that power. I beOn motion by Mr. JONES, of Iowa, it was
a pretty strong hint of who the incumbent is to be. lieve the Senate would revolt at the idea that he
Mr. President, if our patronage were to be dis- should employ a reading clerk whose salary should Ordered, That Avery Downer have leave to withdraw his
pensed in this way, I would have it that the gentle- run nine months in the vacation of the Senate to papers from the files of the Senate.
man who is to be selected for it, if an additional one start with. We propose, then, to do what we FOLDING OF DOCUMENTS.
be selected, should be some aspiring literary young would censure the Secretary for doing. We are Mr. BADGER submitted the following resolu
man who, with $1,500 or $1,800 a year, would be asked to resort to the unjustifiable patronage of tion; which was considered by unanimous consent,
enabled to improve his mind in the Library. I employing a reading clerk for the Secretary, to sit and agreed to:
would have a man of literature, not one who is down for nine months without the necessity of Resolved, That the Sergeant-at-Arms be authorized to
identified merely with party. If I had the assur- opening his mouth to read one word. That is the continue the messengers in the employment of the Senate,
ance that the office would be disposed upon a man proposition. And besides, what do we want with for two months after the termination of the present session, who would avail himself of the opportunity to more clerks at the Secretary's desk? I asked you, for the purpose ot'folding and transmitting documents. improve his mind upon the subject of literature- sir, if it was in order to offer an amendmeni. Í READING CLERK.
some young clergyman, or young man looking to have one here, which, if the original resolution be Mr. ADAMS. I move to take up the resolu
a distinction of that kind perhaps I might be less adopted, should also be adopted. It is to add to tion which I submitted a few days ago, in relation
reluctant upon the subject; but at the close of the it the words, to a reading secretary. I will 'state to Senators
session I do not like to see the Senate subjected to “ And that the desk of the Secretary be lengthened about that if it is taken up I will make such a modifica
terms to have an appointment made when there is | five feet, five-and-a-balf, or six feet."
no occasion for it; and I shall therefore vote tion of it as I suppose will make it acceptable to
Sir, it would be necessary to have more room against the resolution.
there, if you get another reading clerk; for unless every one. The motion was agreed to, and the Senate pro
Mr. CHASE. I am quite satisfied that the you extend the desk there will be no place for him
officer is not needed at this session. We cannot ceeded to consider the resolution.
io sit. We are to appoint a clerk to read nine Mr. ADAMS. I desire to modify the resolu
tell what we may need at the next session; and in months for us when we are scattered all over the tion, so that it will read as follows:
order that we may act with all the lights before us, | Union! An act for which, if performed by the
I move that the subject be postponed until the first Secretary, we should censure him; yet it is pro“ Resolved, that the Secretary of the Senate be authorized
Monday in December next. to employ a clerk, who shall, under his direction, read at the
posed to pass the resolution and do it ourselves.
Mr. BAYARD called for the yeas and nays on desk of the Secretary and discharge such other duties as the
Mr. BUTLER. I understand from the Senator Secretary may assign him; and who shall receive the same the motion, and they were ordered.
from Mississippi, that this clerk is to be a man of compensation as the principal clerk.”
Mr. WALKER.' Would it be in order to pro- very rare endowments. I believe he said that not I will state, in a very few words, the substance pose an amendment to the resolution now? one in ten thousand could be got exactly suitable. of an explanation which I made a few days ago. The PRESIDING OFFICER,(Mr. Badger in 1 suppose, then, the object of the resolution is to I understand that the duties legitimately belonging the chair.) It will not be in order pending the authorize the Secretary of the Senate to employ a to the Chief Clerk, are to keep a minute of the promotion to postpone.
person who, during the nine months between now ceedings of the Senate and to make up the record; Mr. BORLAND. I shall vote for the post- and the commencement of the next session, may that the duties performed at the desk' by Colonel ponement, for the reasons which have been so come here and rehearse. I should like to hear Hickey are extra duties; and this proposition is to well stated by the Senators from Virginia and the rehearsals, and the gentleman's practice in relieve him. His business, which is enough for South Carolina, that at this session, at any rate, elocution. It would be an exhibition worth witany one man to perform, is elsewhere, and not at we do not need the addition to our clerical force, nessing. Who would not come here every mornthe desk. The resolution is only to authorize a and that at the beginning of the next long session, | ing to hear that fellow sing out until he had almost proper organization of that desk.' I think we are if we do need it, we can take the subject up, and I got the records by heart? (Laughter.) entitled to it. It increases the compensation als dispose of it deliberately. We shall then have Mr. ADAMS. If the Senator will allow me, I lowed, from $1,500 to $1,800—which I appre- | plenty of time before business accumulates on our will say that my remarks justified no such criticism hend is not unreasonable. i think really that there hands, and we shall avoid the incurring of what as he has thought proper to put upon them with can be no serious objection to the resolution. It I consider a very unnecessary expense, and also his great facility of turning everything into ridiis intended not to affect any one's rights, but to the doing with a very thin Senate-a bare quorum | cule. I only suggested that there were but few enable the Sec to perform, in a proper man- I apprehend--what would seem more properly to reading clerks who would answer the purpose, ner, the duties which devolve upon him. "It meets belong to a full Senate at the beginning of a new and I desired to give the Secretary time to look his approbation, and that of all concerned, so far Congress.
around him to make the selection. How the as I know
Mr. ADAMS. This is a matter in which I Senator can, from my remarks, come to the exMr. MASON. I very respectfully submit to have no feeling; but I deemed it necessary to in-traordinary conclusion to which he arrives, I canthe Senator from Mississippi, whether it would troduce the resolution, for the advantage and con- not see, though for that gentleman to come to an not be proper to let the matter lie for the present. | venience of the Senate. My opinion is that not extraordinary conclusion is not strange. We do not now want a reading clerk. We may one man out of ten thousand reading, clerks, can Mr. BUTLER. I had not given up the floor want one at the next session. There is no reason be procured to discharge, in a suitable manner, when the Senator from Mississippi anticipated me. 32 CONG.....3D Sess.
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I do not think the public service is so urgent heard a person who could take up different hand- the gentlemen who say that they are indisposed to that it is necessary to make an appointment at writings, and read them with so little hesitation as bring in a new man to rank our clerks. I do not this time. That is my opinion. The Senator that gentleman. I have wondered at it. I believe agree with my colleague that the reading here is wants an opportunity for the Secretary to look in one instance which I recollect, he misread a bad or indifferent; on the contrary, when I contrast around that he may determine whom to select. word, but it was so peculiar that he immediately | it with that in the House, I think we have excelIn that case I would advise the Secretary to attend became aware of the fact, and it was a subject of lent reading. In the House they have bawling the theater. (Laughter.] Very good voices can amusement to me. In reading the word “ rail- and shouting; here we have reading: our clerk be found there, somtimes; but I rather think there | road,” he called it “nailrod," and that I believe reads like a gentleman. I might have no hesitais very little necessity to look around if the man was the only mistake I ever heard him make. tion in agreeing to something of this kind, if it is already decided upon.
That was during the time when the subject of were not that our Chief Clerk, one of the most Mr. DOUGLAS. I have taken no part in this Pennsylvanin iron was before us, and I do not faithful officers of the Senate, is to be superseded matter. I have not been consulted as to the pro- wonder that nailrod and railroad iron should have by it. priety of offering the resolution; but as there is an been jointly occupying the mind of the reader. Mr. ADAMS. Not at all. attempt, on the part of the Senator from South But I do not know where the Senator has heard Mr. SHIELDS. Well, another is to be placed Carolina, to ridicule it, I will say that I am of the so much of these complaints. Doubtless he feels above him. That will be the effect of it, and it opinion that a reform in the reading here is neces- that there is a defect in the reading, but I think he would be a great injustice. We all know that he sary. I believe the Senate thinks so. There is a attributes it to the wrong source. He is in the has discharged his duties faithfully, and to the complaint that while our duties are discharged well outside circle of seats in the Senate, and there is a satisfaction of every one, not only at the desk but in other respects, the reading is not done intelligi- good deal of noise there, and he doubtless has more away from the desk. He has performed an amount bly. There is no use in our avoiding or trying reason to complain than those of us who are not so of labor to my own knowledge that has astonished to conceal the fact. We all confess it to one an- much subjected to the noise and confusion which me; and I think it would be great injustice to bring other. Why then not meet the evil and remedy surrounds him. Sir, I should regret exceedingly in a man, not to supersede him exacily, but to rank it? For one I am in favor of doing it, and doing to see the risk run of getting a worse reader; and him, for that is what it amounts to. "If you make it now or at the next session. I would prefer that we have the testimony of the Senator from Vir- a change, place him in the position proposed, and the resolution should say that the duties and pay | ginia, that if the prominent man who is set up for let another take his place. That would be doing of the person to be appointed should commence This position should be selected, we shall have no something like justice. at the next session, though he may be appointed reform, but a step backward in the conveniences Mr. AĎAMŠ. If the effect be as the Senator in the mean ume.
adopted for the Senate. If it is intended to bring from Illinois seems to think, I certainly did not so Mr. ADAMS. I have no objection to that. in a clerk here, new and inexperienced, who is to intend it. One object in introducing the resolu
Mr. DOUGLAS. I have no faith in these re- rank the old corps of clerks, who is to stand at tion, was to relieve the clerk to whom he has
be, and that we shall at all events take the time another question. Do our officers ask for the The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Chair which is proposed to be given to the Secretary to change? Do they require this assistance? Does understand the Senator from Mississippi to modify reflect and select, for our own reflection before this emanate from them? If so, I would like to his resolution according to the suggestion of the we act in the matter.
know it. Senator from Illinois ?
Mr. PHELPS. During the short period of my
Mr. ADAMS. I can state that I am informed Mr. ADAMS. Yes, sir.
service in this body, I have never heard the com- by the Secretary, that the legitimate business of Mr. MASON. In reply to the Senator from plaints of bad reading at the desk. That short the Chief Clerk, is to keep the minutes and record Illinois, I desire to say that I suspect my nerves period amounts now to about thirteen years, du- of the proceedings of the Senate; that the proper are as sensitive to the proprieties of reading as his ring which time we have had the same Secretary | business belonging to the other clerk (Colonel or other Senators, yet I have never had occasion and I believe the same reading clerk. I have Hickey) does not require him to come to the to complain of the manner in which papers and heard complaints that the reading at the desk could desk at all, but the duties which he performs here, documents are read at our desk. I will not spe- not be heard. I have had occasion very often to are extra duties; that he needs aid. He did not cify the officers by name, but there are those who make that complaint; but the difficulty is not at ask this to be done, but he informed me that he read habitually at that desk, who read better than the desk; it has grown out of a practice, which needed a clerk whose business it would be to read. most men we find. They read in a most articu- practice has grown up since I have been here, of Mr. BUTLER. I do not wish to protract this late and distinct tone, and with a propriety which admitting sn many on the floor of the Senate. It discussion, but as I have been brought into the it is difficult to attain. It may noi be so when the is the conversation, the confusion produced by debate justice requires me to bear my testimony, proper reader is engaged in other duties, and a the introduction of persons who have no business as far as it may be, as a matter of criticism. It substitute is in his place. In the attempt of the here, which, in my judgment, produces the diffi- has been said by the honorable Senator from Nihonorable Senator to reform, he may make a culty.
nois, (Mr. Douglas,] that there is universal comchange, but I doubt exceedingly whether he will Now, Mr. President, I will ask a question plaint that the reading at our desk is not done in make an improvement. Of course I do not know which has been asked before. Where is the ne- a way acceptable to the Senate. I say I have who it is proposed to put in the place of our pres. | cessity of acting now? What duties is this new heard of no such universal complaint, and if I ent reading clerk, but I have heard the name of clerk to perform? Is there any deficiency in the were to pronounce a criticism, it would be that in one person mentioned whom I have heard read, force in the Secretary's office? It seems to me, pronunciation, emphasis, and deliberation-1 do and read a great deal in the other wing of this Cap- that there is not. I think it will be a waste of not say enunciation, because it may not be loud itol; and a more discordant, nasal, sawing tone money to appoint a reading clerk whose salary is enough to suit the ears of some gentlemen, but in than he possesses I have never heard. I do not to run from this time to the commencement of the pronunciation, emphasis, and that deliberate intoknow whom it is proposed to put there. I have no next session.
nation which can express the meaning of the padoubt if the resolution should pass, and the Secre- The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair will per-I think it is done with admirable propriety tary is left to himself, he will make as judicious a suggest that the Senator who offered the resolu- at our desk, and especially as regards the pronunselection as he can; but it is a very difficult thing tion has modified it by directing the compensation | ciation of proper names.' I say it is done with to select a competent reader; and I should very to commence on the first day of the next session. beautiful propriety: You may get a reader who much apprehend, instead of a reform, we should Mr. ADAMS. I will add that the Secretary can talk louder and speak as though he were callhave an alteration very much for the worse.
will have until that time to make the selection. ing for a ferry-man on the other side of the PotoMr. WALKER. I wish to join with the Sen- Mr. PHELPS. Then, I have only to add that mac, or so fast that he could count shot rolled ator from Virginia, in saying that I cannot think I think the next Congress can take care of its own down from the Capitol. (Laughter.) You may the complaint that our reading has been imperfect | affairs, without our making such a preparation. have one with all that mechanical skill, loudness, has been universal.
I may as well speak plainly. I have regarded this facility, and rapidity, but as a matter of criticism, BUTLER. I
rather as a movement—though not perhaps so in. I do not agree that it suits my taste. It is a matI
ter of taste; that is all. De gustibus non est disputestimony with the Senator from Virginia, that the and I confess it reminded me of a presiding officer tandum. reading at our desk is the best I ever heard; and of a town meeting in Rhode Island, which was Mr. DOUGLAS. I certainly have no special if the Senator from Illinois cannot distinctly hear called for the purpose of electing a member of the interest in this matter. I spoke of the complaint, it, let him complain of those who stand behind | Legislature, who opened the meeting and then which I thought was generally conceded to exist, him, and near to him, who make noise by their called upon them to cast their votes for Dick and which I really believe has been smothered by talk and their movements, and not complain of the Harris for the town's representative.
kind feelings towards the officers. But it is more Secretary. It will be difficult for us to get a better Mr. SHIELDS. I think the corps of clerks | agreeable to us all to get up and compliment gen. reader than the one whom we now have. I never which we have now is sufficient, and I agree with 1 tlemen, than to complain; and if I had consulted
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my own feelings of delicacy, I would have com- submitted by Mr. Walker yesterday, changing the Senate that I wrote a note to the President this plimented too, and aided in throwing this matter the hour of meeting to ten o'clock, a. m.
morning, asking him if he could, for the conveniover; but I have thought for years that that com- Mr. MASON. I intended to have said, when ence of Senators, inform me when we could probplaint did exist. As my colleague has, injudi- | that resolution was up before, that I think it ably be adjourned. I received for answer that he ciously, I think, referred to one of the clerks by would be particularly inopportune now. The ob- thought he could probably get through a great name, I will state that I have never seen a man inject is that we may adjourn by one o'clock. Now, share of the public business on which he would the public service whose business talents and sir, we were called here particularly to deliberate desire our action now, by Wednesday or Thursprompt performance of duties, I more universally upon Executive nominations, and those nomina- i day of next week. As to a quorum, we had admired than those of Colonel Hickey.
tions generally come in between one and two, and forty-two Senators here the day before yesterday, I have no special desire about this matter. If we ought therefore to be in session then.
and I suppose there are at least forly now in the the Senate are content, very well. I had nothing Mr. WALKER. I do not know whether I am to do in originating it. I was not consulted about correct or not; but my impression is that we do Several Senators. And there are some coming it; but when I saw an attempt to laugh it out of not get the nominations of one day until the day back. the Senate, I felt it due to frankness to express subsequent. My desires are not otherwise than I Mr. MASON. I think, with all respect to the what I have so often heard in private-a deep expressed yesterday, to sit here while the Cabinet honorable Senator from Texas, that it would not anxiety that we could remedy it without changing are in session, so that we may have an opportu-be altogether courteous to the President, under the Secretary. I do believe that most of the desire nity to attend to business at the Departments. these circumstances, to adopt such a resolution. to change the Secretary of the Senate, has arisen Mr. MASON. I move to postpone the further Mr. HOUSTON. I am sorry that I cannot from the wish to remedy that evil; and my impres- consideration of the resolution until to-morrow, concur with the Senator from Virginia. If we do sion is that it will terminate in changing the Sec- for the purpose of going into Executive session. not adjourn by Saturday, I shall certainly go home. retary in order to remedy the evil. But perhaps The motion was agreed to.
I offer the following resolution: that is a mistake; I do not desire to see that. 'I
Resolved, That unless the President of the United States
EXECUTIVE SESSION. have no feeling on the subject, and if the Senate
shall have further communications to make, the Senate are content with the reading, I have no more to The Senate proceeded to the consideration of
will adjourn on Saturday next. say on the subject. Executive business; and after some time spent
Mr. MASON. Let it lie over. Mr. BORLAND. I never cast censure upon therein, the doors were reopened.
NANTUCKET LIGHT-HOUSE REPORT. any one, if it be possible to avoid it, and I do not
THE MEXICAN BOUNDARY. unnecessarily take any occasion to pay compli
Mr. HAMLIN submitted the following resolu
tion: ments; but the subject has been introduced, and
Mr. HOUSTON submitted the following resoas some difference of opinion has been expressed, lution for consideration:
Resolved, That one hundred copies of the report of the I feel it but an act of justice, to say for myself, so
Secretary of War, with the report of Major Bache, relative Resolved, That John R. Bartlett, late Commissioner, and
to the light house structure on New South Shoals, off Nanfar as the reading has been done by the gentleman A. B. Gray, late United States Surveyor of the Mexican
tucket, heretofore ordered to be printed for the ate, be referred to, I have not only been satisfied, but
Boundary, be authorized to furnish a report and plans to the
printed for Major Bache. eminently gratified with it, on all occasions, and I nected with the Commission under them, on the topogra
MESSENGER TO THE SENATE. should be sorry, as a member of the body, to see phy, geography, and natural history of the regions adjacent
Mr. BADGER submitted the following resoluany change made, whereby we should lose his to the line, with such information as was collected relative
tion: services in this particular.
to the Indian tribes through Texas, California, and New
Mexico; and that the work be executed under the superMr. DOUGLAS. To whom does the Senator
Resolred, That the Sergeant-at-Arms be authorized to vision of the Department of the Interior in a style and form employ Preston Starriti, as messenger, from the first day allude?
corresponding with the publication of " The History, Condi. of April, and that during the recess he shall, under the diMr. BORLAND. To the one whose name the tion, and Prospects of the Indian Tribes," of H. R. School
rection of the Sergeant-at-Arms, take care of the Senate Senator mentioned-Colonel Hickey.
craft, now in course of publication, and Owen's Report on committee rooms, and perform such other duties as may Mr. DOUGLAS. I do not understand that he the Geology of Lake Superior: Provided, That the same
be assigned to him. shall not exceed two volumes. That one thousand copies has been reading clerk at all. I confess, if I am be published for the use of the Senate, at as early a period
PATENT OFFICE BUILDING, driven to particulars, that I think Colonel Hickey as practicable, and the Secretary of the Senate is hereby
Mr. HOUSTON submitted the following resois the best officer at the desk; but I did not, in the
authorized to contract for the publication thereof, and to
Resolved, That the Secretary of the Interior be, and he
is hereby, instructed to furnish the Senate with a report of opposing the resolution which has been offered,
an examination, on file in the Department of the Interior, but if there is one stronger than another that in
made of the Patent Office building in 1851, under the direc
tion of the Commissioner of Public Buildings. duces me to oppose it, it is the fear of losing the
WEDNESDAY, March 30, 1853. services of that officer.
On motion by Mr. JONES, of Iowa, the SenThe question being taken by yeas and nays on Prayer by the Rev. J. G. Butler.
ate adjourned. the motion to postpone the consideration of the
DEATH OF MRS. FILLMORE. resolution until the first Monday in December
Mr. SEWARD. Mr. President, I wish to
Friday, April 1, 1853.
Prayer by the Rev.J. G. BUTLER.
Mr. MASON. I desire to withdraw the meShields, nith, Soulé, Sumner, Thompson of Kentucky, wife of Millard Fillmore, late President of the Walker, and Wright-25. United States. She died this morning. As a
morial of Francis W. Rice, late American Consul NAYS-Messrs. Adams, Atchison, Atherton, Brodhead, || mark of respect, I move that the Senate do now
at Acapulco, and the documents accompanying
it, relative to outrages committed upon him and Norris, Pettit, Rusk, Sebastian, Stuart, Thomson of New adjourn. Jersey, Toucey, and Weller-16.
The motion was unanimously agreed to, and
other American citizens by the Mexican authorSo the motion was agreed to.
The Senate adjourned.
ties. In asking leave to withdraw these papers,
I wish to say that the memorial was referred to the STUART'S NAVAL WORKS.
Committee on Foreign Relations at the last sesMr. MORTON. Some days since I introduced
THURSDAY, March 31, 1853.
sion, but it was at a very late day and it was ima resolution directing the Secretary of the Senate
posible for the committee to act upon it. I have to purchase for the use of the Senate five hundred
Prayer by the Rev. J. G. Butler.
since examined it together with a communication copies of two works called “The Naval Dry On the motion of Mr. GWIN, the Senate pro- relative to the same subject. It manifestly appears
from the President, communicating information Docks of the United States," and " The Naval ceeded to the consideration of Executive business; and Mail Steamers of the United States,” by the land after some time spent therein the doors were
that very great and cruel oppression was exercised Engineer-in-Chief of the Navy. The works are reopened.
by the Mexican authorities at Acapulco on the very valuable, and I should have liked very much
person of this consul. He was treated with into have them purchased for distribution; but on
dignity and eventually imprisoned; and so far as reference to a clause in the deficiency bill of last Mr. HAMLIN submitted the following resolu- we are informed no redress was obtained by the session, to which reference was made yesterday, tion for consideration:
Government of the United States. The consul, I see that it excludes such a proposition, and' i Resolved, That the Secretary of the Senate be author
as he informs me, desires to lay his memorial betherefore ask leave to withdraw the resolution. ized to contract with John C. Rives for a number of copies fore the present Administration, with the view to Mr. SEWARD. I suppose that requires unan
of the Congressional Globe and Appendix, equal to thirty- obtain the redress which it is manifest from the imous consent. seven copies to each Senator, in addition to the number of
papers is due to him and to this Government. I The PRESIDING OFFICER. If the Senator
copies now received by them; and that the price per copy
ask leave to withdraw the papers. has no particular desire to withdraw the resolu
Leave was granted.
ADJOURNMENT. tion, it can lie on the table without being acted
UNITED STATES BONDS ABROAD. Mr. HOUSTON. I desire to submit a resoluupon.
Mr. MORTON. I do not desire its considera- tion, for the purpose of asking its adoption now, Mr. BRODHEAD. I desire to lay upon the tion. It was called up yesterday, and passed over
that the Senate will adjourn on Saturday next. table the following resolution, which I will call up at my request, and for the reason which I have Several SENATORS. Of this week?
in a day or two: stated I do not desire it to be acted upon. It is
Mr. HOUSTON. Yes; I am perfectly satisfied Resolved, that the Secretary of the Treasury be required immaterial to me how it is disposed of.
if we do not adjourn then that we shall be left to procure, so far as practicable, and furnish the same to the
Senate at the commencement of the next session of Con-
gress, the following information, to wit:
The aggregate amount of Federal, State, city, county, The Senate proceeded to consider the resolution I shall object to its consideration. I will state to railroad, canal, and other corporation bonds, stocks, or other
320 Cong.....30 SESS.
Special Session-United States Bonds Abroad.
Senate at the commencement of the next session of Cop
evidences of debt, held in Europe and other foreign coun- The Senator from Virginia (Mr. HUNTER] ob
UNITED STATES BONDS ABROAD. tries, on the 30th June, 1853, specifying separately, so far
jected to it, but said that he was "willing to give as the same can be ascertained, the amount of each of the
The Senate proceeded to consider the following to them the additional pay, by taking the provis- | resolution, submitted by Mr. Brodhead on Friday above description of bonds and stocks.
ion as it came from the House." I then read the CLERKS TO COMMITTEES.
last: clause in the Army appropriation bill of 1850, in Mr. SHIELDS submitted the following resolu
“Resolved, That the Secretary of the Treasury be required these words:
to procure, so far as practicable, and furnish the same to the tion; which was considered by unanimous consent, and agreed to:
“For extra pay to the commissioned officers and enlisted
gress, the following information, to wit: Resolved, That the Secretary of the Senate pay such
men of the army of the United States serving in Oregon or “ The aggregate amount of Federal, State, city, county, clerks of committees as have been employed during this
California, $325,854, on the following basis, to wit: that railroad, canal, and other corporation bonds, stocks, or other extra session, the usual compensation for the time they
there shall be allowed to each commissioned officer as evidences of debt, held in Europe and other foreign counmay be so employed.
aforesaid, whilst serving as aforesaid, a per diem, in addi tries, on the 30th June, 1853, specifyin; separately, so far
tion to their regular pay and allowance of two dollars each : as the same can be ascertained, the mount of each of the EXECUTIVE SESSION.
and to each enlisted man as aforesaid, wbilst serving as above description of bonds and stocks." On motion by Mr. MASON, the Senate pro
aforesaid, a per diem, in addition to their present pay and ceeded to the consideration of Executive business; by existing laws, said extra pay of the enlisted men to be
allowances, equal to the pay proper of cach as established Mr. BRODHEAD. The information sought to and after about four hours and a half spent therein,
be obtained by this resolution is important, and retained until honorably discharged. This additional pay the doors were reopened, to continue until the lsi of March, 1852, or until otherwise
will be useful not only to the country, but to the And the Senate adjourned until Monday. provided."
Senate, in considering measures which may and
probably will be brought forward at the next sesThe Senator from Virginia then said:
sion proposing a revision of our revenue laws. It MONDAY, April 4, 1853. "I am willing to add the fifty per centum which we
can be obtained with some degree of accuracy by agreed to in relation to the Army. I have no idea that the circulars addressed by the Secretary of the TreasPrayer by the Rev. J. G. BUTLER. House will agree to it.”
ury to the Governors of States, presidents of railPERSONAL EXPLANATION.
This was the only opposition the proposition road and canal companies, executive officers of Mr. GWIN. I ask the indulgence of the Senmet with in the Senate.
cities, and other municipal corporations, &c. The ate for a few moments for the purpose of making
The Committee on Naval Affairs acted on this
Federal and State indebtedness abroad can be asa personal explanation in regard to what is pub. subject in February, 1852, when I reported the
certained with absolute certainty. lished in one of the newspapers of this city as part bill, a section of which I have read; which was,
Notwithstanding the large. importation of Caliof the report of the Committee on Frauds, &c. with a slight modification, to make it more accept
fornia gold, which I fear has done considerable to It is in reference to a statement made by a late able to the House of Representatives, incorporated increase avarice and banish industry, we have Senator from New Hampshire (Mr. Hale] during in the amendment to the naval appropriation contracted a large foreign debt, which is increasthe last session of Congress, in which he alleged bill; and therefore my statement in reply to the ing with a fearful ratio
of rapidity. The Legislathat individuals outside of Congress had procured insinuation of the Senator from New Hampshire
tures of nearly all the States in the Union seem to the passage of the law giving additional compen
was strictly correct, that no outside influence in- be devising ways and means to get in debt. Many sation to officers, seamen, and marines serving
duced the committee to act upon that matter. people and legislators seem to think the world can on the Pacific coast.
be legislated into the millennium, and wealth acWhen the Senator from My remarks were made without having the New Hampshire made the statement-speaking slightest intimation that any particular individual quired by going in debt. I know this is a fast for the Senate and the Naval Committee, to which
was implicated in the remarks of the Senator from age, but I regret to see so many people endeavor. the subject had been referred at an early period of New Hampshire, for I had paid no attention to ing to get rich without industry, economy, or fruthe last Congress– I pronounced it false, because what he was saying until I was warned that he was
gality-the life-giving principles of a Republic. In I knew it was false.I stated at the same time attacking the Naval Committee. Subsequently I view of the speculating spirit of the country and that the subject had been considered in committee was called on by Mr. J. Knox Walker, and in
the number of State and corporation bonds sold at an early period of the first session of the last i formed that he was the person alluded to by the in Europe, it seems impossible to have anything Congress, and the committee were unanimous in Senator from New Hampshire. I recollected that
like stability in our revenue laws. It seems to be favor of granting the additional compensation, and he had exhibited some activity in regard to the
impossible to make tariff laws which will stand I will now prove this fact by reading to the Sen- amendment to the naval appropriation bill, but
against the ways of Providence, the course of ate the bill I reported on the 24th of February, not by way of influencing the opinions of mem
commerce and trade, and the influence of a specu1852, six months before the naval appropriation bers of the committee, for those opinions had been lating mania. What is protection one year is bill was considered in that committee: known to the Senate month's before, on the bill
none the next, and what is a revenue siandard “That the proper accounting officers of the Treasury be, which I have read. As to the particular wording one year is none the next. I hope, therefore, in and they are hereby, authorized and directed to allow to of the amendment, or who drafted it, I was in
view of these and other considerations, that all the officers, petty officers, seamen, and marines of the Uni- different, if it covered the object of the committee.
will hereafter agree to take the subject out of the ted States Navy who served in the Pacific ocean, on the
I had no especial recollection of Mr. Walker's arena of party politics. coast of California and Mexico, dnring the late war with Mexico, such additional compensation as shall be equivaaction in the matter; and as he had prepared
Mr. President, I have collected some statistics, lent to the amount of pay accruing to such officers, petty a statement of the facts which he had or said he
and made some estimates, which I will proceed officers, seamen, and marines during the period aforesaid."
was ready to verify by his affidavit, I indorsed briefly to exhibit to the Senate, for the purpose of This, Mr. President, was the deliberate action its correctness, believing him to be a gentleman of showing our commercial and monetary relations of the committee more tilan six months before the veracity. This had not the slightest reference to
with foreign countries, and the propriety of adoptclause in the appropriation bill covering the same the action of the committee, which had been ma
ing the resolution under consideration. object was acted on in committee or in the Senate. tured more than six months before.
The value of imports into the United One of the members of the committee (Mr. Stock- The report of the Select Committee on Frauds States during ihe fiscal year ending TON) had served on the coast of California; he had says that I explained the discrepancy" in my the 30th June, 1852, was... $207,109,738 commanded the seamen and marines there who statements, by saying that I supposed, at the time | The value of exports was.... 166,967,490 aided in the conquest of the country. A large when Mr. Hale made his remarks, that he alluded portion of them were my constituents, and that to another bill. The report of the committee does Difference against United States.. $40.142.248 distinguished Senator and myself took a special not state the facts correctly. There was no disinterest in the matter; and no person ever did ap- crepancy, in what I said in reply to Mr. Hale, The above are predicated on the official returns proach us on the subject, directly or indirectly, and my indorsement of Mr. Walker's statement. of the custom-houses, but they are of course only nor, as I believe, any member of the committee. The committee had acted upon the subject months approximations to the facts of the case, as there We considered that it was our duty to give this before Mr. Walker pretends that he had any in- are several deficient elements to insure their accu. additional compensation to these gallant men, and tercourse with any member of it in reference to racy: we needed no prompting to induce us to perform the matter. We reported a bill, which was on The imports, for instance, are based on the inthat duty. Subsequently it was determined in our calendar. Did he cause us to report that bill? voices produced on entry at the custom-houses, committee, as there was a doubt if the bill passed | Did he ever approach a member of the committee and on which duty was levied, and therefore no the Senate whether it would be acted on in the when we were deliberating on the subject? It is allowance is made for frauds in undervalued inother House, that an amendment should be offered not pretended that he did. We subsequently in- voices. What this item may amount to it is to the naval appropriation bill whereby the officers, corporated the substance of our bill in an amend- impossible to say, but I should think ten per cent. seamen, and marines who served on the coast of ment to the naval appropriation bill. In the action on the aggregate declared value would be a reaCalifornia would be placed on the same footing of Congress on this question at that period, in his sonable estimate. Nor does the above value of with the officers and soldiers of the army in ser- statement he says he did take an active part, not foreign imports embrace the actual smuggling of vice in California and Oregon by the act of 1850. to influence the Senate or its Naval Committee, foreign fabrics, which on our lake and Mexican Under the instructions of the committee, I did for both were in favor of giving the increased com- frontiers, and on the numerous rivers and bays move the following amendment, which passed, but pensation; but his labors seem to have been di- on the Atlantic board, must be very considerable, a single member of the Senate objecting to it: rected to the House of Representatives and the and probably in the aggregate may amount to “ That the proper accounting officers of the Treasury be,
Committee of Conference. Neither he nor any four or five millions of dollars. and they are hereby, authorized and directed 10 allow and other man ever induced the Naval Committee of On the other side, the value of our exports is pay, put of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, to the officers, perty officers, seamen, and ma
the Senate, or any member of it, to adopt the the cost at the shipping ports, and does not emrines of the United States Navy, and officers and men of
principle that this additional compensation should brace the increased value which foreigners pay us the revenue service, who served in the Pacific ocean, on be paid to the officers and seamen and marines for them delivered in their ports, which increased the coast of California and Mexico, during the late war with who served on the Pacific coast.
value consists of the freight so far as the merchan. Mexico, and since that period, the same increased or additional compensation as has been by law directed to be paid
I merely make this statement that it may go dise has been conveyed in American vessels, into the officers and soldiers of the army who served in Cali
upon the record, to show that there is no discrep- surance, profits, &c.' It is, of course, impossible fornia."
ancy in anything that I said on the subject. to arrive at anything like a correct estimate on the 32D Cong.....30 Sess.
Special Session-Senate Debates.
above points; but, after a good deal of examina- From present appearances, the probable balance derstood as expressing the opinion in the few tion and reflection on the subject, I have come to of the current year will not be less, and is likely | remarks which I submitted, that anything like a the conclusion that these uncertain items, con- to be even more, which will make a further drain commercial revulsion was to be apprehended. It nected with the imports and exports of the coun- upon our gold and silver, and add a further amount was with a view to prevent such a revulsion either try, probably about balance each other, or, in to our foreign indebtedness by additional trans- in the proximate future or at some distant day, other words, that the undervaluation of foreign missions of stock, thus heaping up the European that I thought it necessary to bring to the notice invoices and the value of smuggled goods may be mortgage upon the future labor and earnings of of the Senate and the country, the facts which I about an equal offset to the difference between the the country. The prospect is anything but agree- have submitted. I think it proper that we should home valuation of our exports and the value which able to contemplate. No wise or prudent man look the truth in the face, and not proceed in the foreigners pay us for the latter delivered at their would, in my judgment, thus go in debt; nor do 1 manner we did prior to 1840, in selling so many ports, with the addition of freight, insurance, think it sound policy or the true path of duty for railroad and other corporation and State stocks. profit, &c. On this basis, therefore, though the a nation to do it. I think I see in this state of The resolution was agreed to. figures given by the custom-house returns may | things, some of the symptoms, although not all, not be correct, yet the result is about the truth, and which preceded the break-down of 1840. For the
NANTUCKET LIGHT-HOUSE REPORT. the real balance against us in our foreign trade reasons which I have stated, I hope the Senate The following resolution, submitted by Mr. for the last fiscal year may be stated at the above will adopt the resolution.
Hamlin on the 31st ultimo, was considered and sum, or, in round numbers, say $40,000,000; for
agreed to: which we have provided by shipments of specie,
Mr. SEWARD. Not only shall I vote cheer
“ Resolved, That one hundred copies of the report of the or by the transfer and sale of stocks. The balance fully for the resolution which has been submitted
Secretary of War, with the report of Major Bache, relative certainly cannot be less than the sum I have by the Senator, but I also thank him for introdu
to the light-house structure on New South Shoals, off Nannamed, because many of our exported articles are
cing it. It will bring before the Senate and the tucket, heretofore ordered to be printed for the Senate, be taken in foreign vessels on foreign account. country information which will be useful and may
printed for Major Bache." But this by no means exhibits the full balance become even absolutely necessary. But, at the
EXECUTIVE SESSION. that has been accumulated against us by foreignsame time, lest by doing so I might be understood
Mr. MASON. I move that the Senate proceed ers during the last fiscal year. as in some way concurring in the rather somber
to the consideration of Executive business. Our best informed citizens, and those most con
views which he has taken, I wish barely to say Mr. SHIELDS. I hope my friend from Virversant with the subject, estimate our present in that I do not see in the present state of our affairs
ginia will withdraw that motion for a moment. I debtedness to foreigners, principally to Europe, in anything to excite the apprehension of a speedy
promised the Senator from North Carolina, (Mr. the shape of Federal, State, city, county, railroad, commercial revulsion. I know that commercial
Badger,] if he was not here this morning, to call canal, and other corporation bonds and stocks, revulsions must come; and I know that all the cir
up a resolution which he submitted a few days is, in the aggregate, not less than $300,000,000, cumstances of great commercial prosperity are to
ago. which, at an interest of six per cent., would give be regarded as frequently indicating the approach Mr. MASON. What is it? an additional annual amount of $18,000,000 to be of a period of decline and disaster.
Mr. BRIGHT. I suppose it is the resolution provided for.
But I think there is a mis-estimate in the statist- in relation to the employment of an additional The expenditure of our citizens traveling in ics which the honorable Senator has furnished, the
messenger. Europe has been estimated at .as high as ten mil- | correction of which will go far to remove the ap
Mr. MASON. Linsist on my motion. lions annually; but though this class of citizens prehensions which he has expressed. The item
The motion was agreed to; and the Senate prothat he sets down in his statistics of the coin are among the most wealthy, and make a lavish
ceeded to the consideration of Executive business; expenditure abroad, I think this amount is over
brought into this country by immigrants I think is ard after some time spent therein, the doors were estimated, and that five millions would be nearer underestimated. If I recollect aright, the number
reopened, and the mark, and certainly does not exceed the actual of immigrants to this country has now passed
The Senate adjourned. outlay for that item.
beyond four hundred thousand, and is tending toThe maintenance of the navy on foreign stations, wards five hundred thousand per annum. The and the diplomatic expenditures, amount to about little acquaintance I have with the subject has con
Tuesday, April 5, 1853. three millions more. The payment of the indem- vinced me that the amount of gold and silver
On motion by Mr. JONES, of lowa, it was nity to Mexico under the ireaty of peace has for brought by these immigrants is much larger than the last few years involved an annual foreign exhe makes it. The increase of population by im.
Ordered, That Daniel Knipps and Lewis Ralston have
leave to withdraw their papers from the files of the Senate. penditure of three millions more; but, the last of migration is crowding close upon the native ni
On motion by Mr. GWIN, it was ihis indemnity having been paid, no future outlay
In the statistics which he has read he has on that score will be required. not made allowance for the profits which are made
Ordered, That Maria C. J. Johnson, David W. Alexan
der, and H. P. Dorsey, have leave to withdraw their papers The remittances by our Irish immigrants to their by our own merchants upon the importation of friends in Ireland involve an amount which makes
this great amount. There is another item which it an item of national importance. A late English I think should be taken into the calculation. At
SENATE DEBATES. paper states that the receipts from this source are
the expiration of an average period of five or six The Senate proceeded to consider the following equal to the whole of the poor rates of Ireland. || years, all these immigrants become producers, resolution, submitted by Mr. Hamlin on the 31st There are large and wealthy firms in our sea-ports chiefly agricultural producers in the great West; ultimo: who make it a principal part of their business to and they, with their children and their children's “ Resolved, That the Secretary of the Senate be author
ized to contract with Jobn C. Rives for a number of copies furnish such parties with small bills of exchange, children, are constantly increasing the wealth of
of the Congressional Globe and Appendix, equal to thirtyof from 1 to £5 sterling, for which they charge the country in a geometrical ratio. There is an
seven copies to each Senator, in addition to the number of an extra rate, and realize a heavy profit. The
other point which goes to dissipate any apprehen- copies now received by them; and that the price per copy remittances under this head will, at a very low
sion of a speedy revulsion, and that is, that the shall not exceed the sum paid under the existing contract.is estimate, be at least five millions of dollars per
amount of gold that we can export is an amount Mr. GWIN. I offer the following as a substiannum. Something considerable is also sent out
within certain limits subject to our own power of tute for the resolution; to strike out all after the by German and other immigrants.
increase. We export now what is wanted. We word “resolved," and insert: Against all these items of unrecorded outgoings, I export no more because Europe wants no more. That the Secretary of the Senate be authorized to conI know nothing incoming, except what money may
She will take no more. But if there comes a re- tract with John C. Rives for a number of copies of the Conbe brought by immigrants, which probably may, 1 of remittances, the increased amount which we turn of American credits or stocks, or other forms
gressional Globe and Appendix equal to thirty-seven copies, be estimated at ten millions of dollars per annum.
to each Senator, and that the price per copy shall not
exceed the sum now paid. The account current, then, of the United States
shall send will supply that which comes back upon Resolvell, That the Secretary be also authorized to enter for the last fiscal year with foreign countries will
us. If it is said that that will be a drain from our into a contract with the editors of the Union and Intellistand as follows: own country of gold, I answer that the increased
gencer to publish in their respective papers from the com
inencement of the next session, the revised debates of the Excess of imports over the exports demand for gold there and here will be attended
Senate, at the rate of seven dollars per column, and to reof the country..... $40,000,000 | by increased facilities to transport to the mines
voke any existing contracts with the editors of the said two Interest annually payable to foreignthe laborers and the capital which will be necessa- papers for reporting and publishing said debates : Provided,
however, That the editors of the Intelligencer be paid seven ers on the stocks, &c., held by them 18,000,000 ry to increase the supply of gold. With that will
dollars and filliy cents per column for the debates and proExpenditures of travelers........... 5,000,000 come a reduction of the cost of mining, and an
ceedings of the Thirty-second Congress, published and to Navy and diplomacy.
be published in said paper. Installment to Mexico...
These circumstances, which stand out promi- My object is to have these debates published in Remittances to Ireland.. 5,000,000 nently upon the first view, incline me to believe
papers that have some circulation. The reports that for the present there is no serious ground of that have been published in the Intelligencer Total... $74,000,000 apprehension. If the remarks of the honorable
during the last Congress have been very accurate, From this deduct the probable amount
Senator had gone abroad without being accompa- and although concise they have contained the subof gold and silver brought into the nied by some adverse explanation, there might
stance of the proceedings of the two Houses of country by immigrants..... 10,000,000 have been a misapprehension excited in the public
Congress, certainly of the Senate, and their insermind. At the same time, as I stated before, I
tion has prevented profitable advertisements that Leaving the sum of.... $64,000,000 shall cheerfully support the resolution; for I agree
would otherwise have been inserted. I hope the as the balance against the United States, toward entirely with him, that, instead of sending paper proposition will be agreed to. the settlement of which we have the official record to England, we had better send gold; and insread
Mr. SEBASTIAN I hope this resolution will of the exportation above the importations of of sending either, we had better send whatever
be informally passed over for the present. My $37,000,000 of gold and silver, and the balance of we can produce by cultivating the soil or by man- colleague, (Mr. Borland,) who 1 observe is not $27,000,000 has no doubt been liquidated by the ufacturing its products.
now in his seat, takes an interest in the subject, remittance of Federal, State, and other stocks. Mr. BRODHEAD. I did not wish to be un
and wishes to discuss it, as he is one of the mem
froin the files of the Senate.