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August 7, 1803.

SIR,We humble politicians, who are not Members of Parliament, always look for and read with great avidity the accounts of the Debates of the House of Commons, which find their way into the public prints. That the public, have a right thus to be informed of what these representatives are saying and doing, is a point which I am told, certain members of that House are inclined to de, ny. But I could observe, to those persons, that if they do not look sharply about them, this right will be established by prescription, whatever the Statute Law or the Book of Orders may say on the subject. Indeed, the House of Commons has within the last two months grown a little more tenacious of their power; and has several times ordered the gallery to be cleared; the object of those orders seems to have been to prevent us from knowing what might be the military statements of Col. Crawford, respecting the defence of the country. I suppose, by endeavouring to conceal these statements, it is meant to adopt the hints contained in them, and act accordingly; which, I believe, no man who has ever heard of Col. Crawford would regret. But to return; since these orders have been repeated two or three times, the rights of the public to be acquainted with the proceedings of the House seem to have extended themselves; and what is still more extraordinary, the power of the House to conceal has in an equal degree diminished. For I observe, that though the gallery was cleared on Tuesday last, the 2d inst. we have in one or two papers on Thursday and Friday, a succinct account of the debates which then took place; nay, some of the gentlemen's speeches appeared at full length. I think this matter would be well worth the consideration of some public-spirited member of the House; and that this etiquette between the Parliament and the public should at least be settled on some firm basis. In the mean time, if these debates and speeches are to be published, I presume it is allowable to comment on such publications, and it is with this view, Mr. Cobbett, that I now take up my pen to address you. In the Morning Pest of Friday last, the 5th, you will find in a speech attributed to Mr. Sheridan, and meant as a reply to Mr. Windham, an attempt to affix to the latter gentleman the charge of attempting constantly, to discourage and to dishearte : country. "First," Exertion in every says Mr. Sheridan. "to p e depended the assure them

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individual as if upon "salvation of the state, yo "that the country is lost, unless o.. ecified in"dividual is the minister." Now, Father think there is some mistake here; for, if my memory does not play me an unusual trick in this instance, I very much doubt Mr. Windham's ever having said this; and the more so, as I really cannot now say, whether by that individual is supposed to be meant M. W. himself or Mr. Pitt. I know some other persons have spoken of Mr. Pitt in that way; but, doubt much that Mr. W. has

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ever done so; especially, as their opinions on the
subject of the Peace of Amiens, (the grans port
of Mr. W's dissent from the measures of manis-
ters,) were so diametrically opposite. I rather
think the Morning Post, instead of the words,
"one specified individual is" should have said
"certain specified individuals are not," and then,
I verily believe, that however false an object may
be attributed to the sentiment, the sentiment itself
is such, as that very few persons in the country
will choose positively to deny, however unwilling
they may be to act up to it. But Mr. W. is ac-
cused of saying this in order "to promote exer-
"tion" if it is meant to be said that it has a cen-
trary effect, that I deny, but, I deny that it is said
Mr. W. has in
in order to promote exertion.
other places, and at other times, used the language
fit and proper to promote exertion; this is only
meant to point out one of these objects to which
that exertion ought to be directed, viz. to cast the
ministers from their places; I should go on to say
for myself, and to punish their crimes; beginning
with the first visit made by Lord Hawkesbury to
the Commissary for French prisoners, and ending,
probably, at the last act of their admistration.
But it will be said, this is not a time to do this
work; this same Mr. Sheridan is reported on ano-
ther occasion to have said, "Do not tell me who
"is minister, but where is the enemy." There is
a certain specious air of public spirit in this; but
it is specious only, and the thing is really so toul,
ish, that I could scarcely have credited that any
M. P. would have used such an argument.
does it stand? The persons who wish to oust mi-
nisters, are of course, those who have neither a good
opinion of them, nor confidence in their abilities,
judgment, courage, activity nor wis om.
therefore, wish to get rid of them; but Mr. S. says,
no, the enemy is at the door, think of that; but at
first drive them back, and then let us talk about
the ministers. This may be very well for himself
and others, who have lately learnt to find the pre-
sent ministers the best, the wisest, the most active
and constitutional ministers, that ever ruled in this
country; but that at present is nothing to the pur-
pose; for he is using this argument as against
persons, who think them the most weak, impotent,
absurd, and base; and who of course have no con-
fidence in them, would be sorry to be directed by
them at any period, but most of all at a time of
danger and peril. The argument only goes, there-
fore, to those who wish to oust them on account
of their inability, and will really stand thus.
"The ministers are the most incapable that ever
were, and by their incapacity have brought this
country into the greatest peril that ever thu eat-
"ened it, still let ther occupy their places and
"continue to rule." This is really the argument,
and is so absurd, that think even Mr. S. himself
must be sensible of the folly of it. If he is not, let
him consider for one minute, what the conse-
quence of it is; viz. the greater the inability of
any minister, and the greater the peril with which
he brings the country, the less inclined ought the
House of Commons to be to punish him. For 1
dety any man to produce an argument in support
of that much culogized sentence," Let us consider
"not who the minister is, but where is the ene-
"my," which does not rest upon the magnitude
of the peril, which in its turn depends on the ina
bility of the ministers, and which argument, there-
fore, will be the stronger, the greater the peril;
or which is the same thing, the more incapable the
ministers. 2dly, says Mr. S. "to inspite the people

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"with a high idea of maintaining their honour “and dignity, you are to assure them that since "the accurs.d peace of Amiens, they have nei"ther honour nor dignity lett to contend for; that they have touched the base string of humility; that they have received kicks innumerable on the seat of honour; that they have irretrievably disgraced their ancestors, and must inevitably be *the worn of their posterity. This is the argu❝ment to raise a noble spirit in de ence of charicter and honour."-Here again as before, the question must be begged, viz. that the treaty has had the consequences here mentioned. Mr. W. thinks it has, and therefore, can only act and speak consistently with that opinion. Having therefore, that opinion, I really think, that to represent it in the stronge t possible light is the very best and most likely way "to inspire them with a high idea," not "of maintaining," but of recuse ing" their honour and dignity." W.thinks it is best; it is therefore, not to be maintained. but to be recovered; but, Mr. S. says, ja order to make them recover it, you must by no means tell them that it is lost. Why, pray? forsooth, for fear they should be dispirited, and instead of exerting themselves to recover it, should sit down contented under the loss. Mr. W. on the ether hand, in a forcible manner, says to the propie of Er gland. "By no fault of yours, but "by the measures of weak and wicked ministers, in whom you have placed a mistaken confidence, your honour has been betrayed, and your digaity sacrificed; you have had repeated in"sults and injuries offered to you, which have

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lowered you in the eyes of the present age, and "was disgrace you in the option of posterity, "unless, now at length, you betake your elves to "such measures as will show, that you have lost nhing of your ancient spirit, courage, and vaiour, and that you are still worthy of the high "same you formerly bore." Which, I ask, which of the above sentiments is honourable, and which is insulting to the country? But Mr. Sheridan proceeds, thirdly," to encourage the martial hopes "of the nation, knowing that you have but a very "limited force of the line, and that it is abso

lutely impossible to increase it by any force "that has experienced actual service: you are to "endeavour to make it a matter of demonstration "that all efforts of militia, yeomanry, and volun

teer corps, will be pertectly inefficient and con"temptible, when opposed to the experienced

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and disciplined armies which alone France will bring in o this country. This is to inspire a "martial confidence in three-fourths of all the "force we have to resist the enemy." And thin ges on to his fourth attack as follows; fourthly, "in order to create a patriotic devotion in all ranks of people to offer their purses and persons "to the disposal of the government, you are to "assure them that every deposit either of wealth "or force, placed in such hands, is not only a perfect waste of the resources of the country, "bot a mischievous deposit placed in hands ut"ficial purpose" tery incapable of applying them to any beneThese two last I shall consider together, because, I conceive the same general ar guments apply to each. In the first place, I will observe on them, that if I judge right, (and prove the line of conduct Mr. W. has always pursued in public life, I apprebend he agrees with me in that point), the business of a men?ber of parliament is purely and solely to consult for the good of the aic. He ought to have no other view, Mr. She

ridan, will doubtless agree with me, that he would be betraying his trust, if he any ways sought by his conduct in Parliament to curry favour with a minister or at court; and I confess, that for my own part, I can see no difference in his behaviour, if the object be favour with the multitude and popolar applause. The Parliament I have always looked upon as the great council of the nation. The good of the nation, the end to be pursued by the members, the counsellors. I have always been taught too, to believe, that a counsellor only did his duty properly, when he gave the advice in his mind best calculated to promote the object for which his advice was asked, without at all attending to any ulterior considerations; such as whcther it was most palatable, most agreeable, most flattering to the feelings of those who asked the advice or not. According to this doctrine, I really think, that a member of parliament would but betray his trust, if he really thinking that the militia, yeomanry, and volunteer corps, were not fit troops to be opposed to the experienced, disciplined armies of France, he should omit to urge that opinion in Parliament. The question is not whether or not they are fit; the question is, whether Mr. W. thinking them unfit, ought or ought not to say so. Mr. S. says no, lest he should damp the martial hopes of the country. The orders of the House say, what is spoken in debate in the House, shall not be made public; how then can he urge in the House, that what is so spoken will damp the hopes of the country? Are the orders of the House disobeyed? Then should Mr. S. insist on these orders being punctually executed. The effect imputed to Mr. W's speeches may be a very good argument to make him do that, but can be no argument at all, why Mr. W. should betray his trust, and not speak his mind. The real fact is, that the House have now gotten into an awkward predicament from having suffered their debates to be made public. Every body feels how awkwardly situated the Privy Council, for instance, would be, if their consultations were hawked about in the streets, or the public papus, and opinions therein given, commented upon, replied to, argued, refuted, contradicted, &c. In every Gazette in Europe. 1he some reasoning applies, though, perhaps, with somewhat less force to the consultations of Parliament. The House of Parliament are composed, the one of the hereditary, the other of the elected counsellors of the King; and are accountable for their counsel to none but to God and their country. These houses have unwarily suffered a tribunal to erect itself over them; which, though it begins to be troublesome, has as yet no authority; and to whose proceedings, as they are able to do it, I think they would be wise if they put an immediate stop. Mr. S. does not feel in this case, that it is at all proper for such arguments as Mr. W's, to be urged at all; but he will not deny, that other people may think them such; and if so, at least he will grant me, that those who think so, should be allowed to urge them without being reproached on the one hand, and without damping the hopes of the country on the other.i think, I have now pretty well shown the absurdity of these attacks of Mr. Sheridan's. With respect to the opinions given, they were not at all in dispute, the question is merely, whether these opinions ex isting in the breast of Mr. Windham, he is or is not justified in urging them. Some of the opinions themselves, I may, perhaps, take some future op. portunity of examining, and I doubt not, that I

shall be able to show, that any attacks made on them are as little justifiable, as the attack now made on Mr. W. for merely stating them.

I am yours, &c.

EPIGRAM.

ANNIBAL.

In Richmond's shades the Premier sat,
Discoursing o'er his wine;

"What name, dear Hiley, shall we give "To this sweet place of mine?" A wicked wag the question heard

Behind a neighb'ring tree; "Call it, dear Doctor"! straight he cried, "The VILLA MEDICI."

Anti-medicus.

FOREIGN OFFICIAL PAPERS. Letter from Lieut. Gen, Mortier, Commander in Chief of the French Army in Hanover, to the Minister of iVar.

Head-quarters, Hanover, July 21, 1803. Citizen Minister-I cannot but commend the order and good faith which have distinguished the Hanoverian army. Fourteen thousand musquets of different calibres, with all the necessary accoutrements, 80 pieces of cannon, and 3868 cavalry horses are at this moment in our possess on.add to this, a copy of the stipulations with the Hanoverian army. It is engaged not to serve against France or her allies, until exchanged against an equal number of French prisoners made by England. Three hundred of the finest horses have been selected for the cavalry of the guard. The Hanoverian horses are handsome, and of a good breed, but they suffered in some degree at Lauenburgh, through the want of forage. All the French artillery taken in the war of 1756 and the following years, is now on its way to France. Eighty flat bottomed boats are about to he constructed on the Elbe and the Weser.- A Russian fotilla is arrived at Rostock, a port belonging to Mechlenberg. It consists of a vessel of 74 guns, three frigates and eleven sloops or gallies. The Russian flect is generally seen with pleasure in a state of action, as it may prevent the scene before Copen. hagen being renewed; for it is impossible that a measure so arbitrary and so contrary to very principle as that which England has adopted in blockading the Elbe and the Weser, not only against French vessels, but against those of all nations, should not rouse the indignation of all in Europe, who are alive to the honour and sovereignty of nations.Health and respect,

ED. MORTIER.

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gative in requiring the Military Services of his "liege subjects in case of invasion of the Realm," and to direct your Lordship to take immediate measures for carrying the provisions of it into effect in the county of Sussex-In adverting to the 29th clause of the Act, your Lordship will ob. serve, that, in order to prevent the delay, which must necessarily arise, if the training and exercise in the respective counties should be protracted until the several returns of the different classes required by the Act have been completed, provision has been made by Parliament that a certain proportion may be trained in the first instance, and I have it in command from his Majesty to direct that the proportion should not be less than six times the amount of the Militia ordered to be raised under the forty second of the King, exclusive of the Supplementary quota.--The Officer in the command of the District will be directed to furnish your Lordship with a plan of instructions for Drill and Exercise, which will be recommended for general adoption.With a view to the further progress of this important measure, it is the decided opinion of his Majesty's confidential Ser vants, that, in all places where Volunteer Corps can be formed, upon such conditions as his Majesty shall approve, it would be desirable that every encouragement should be given for that purpose; such an arrangement being calculated to concentrate the force, to promote the convenience of the public, and to render it unnecessary to have recourse to the compulsory clauses of the Act. It can scarcely be necessary for me to point out to your Lordship the difficulty of issuing Arms from his Majesty's stores for the extensive training and exercise required under this Act, without material injury to the other essential branches of his Military Service; I must therefore, earnestly recommend to your Lordship to resort to the zeal and public spirit of the inhabitants of the county under your charge, for the purpose of procuring a return of the arms in their possession, in order that, with their consent, they may for a time be applied to the service of the country, and that your Lordship would take measures for distributing them in the manner that may appear to you most conducive to the object in view; twenty-five firelocks being considered sufficient for the purpose of drilling one hundred men. This information will materially assist Government in forming the necessary arrangements with a view to such a further supply of arms as circumstances may require.- -Your Lordship will be sensible that the effect of this Act must in a great degree depend upon the activity and exertion which are applied in carrying the provisions of it into execution; and I am persuaded that in a conjuncture like the present your Lordship will experience the most zealous co-operation and assistance from the gentlemen of the county of Sussex, as well as from individuals of every description — The object of the Act is to obtain such a force, in addition to that which has already been provided, as may enable his Majesty to avert or frustrate the attack with which this country is threatened, and by combining economy with vigour, to continue the contest so long as it may be necessary for the honour and security of the British Empire.-Your Lordship will understand that this communication is made under the impression of the inexpediency of establishing a Voluntary Force, to the extent now proposed, upon the allowances specified in the printed regulations transmitted in the

fectual bar to the enrollment of journeymen | and labourers, whose exclusion is, indeed, one of the principal objects with those who have formed themselves into Volunteer Corps, but on whose arms, I am fully con. vinced, this country must finally rely for its defence. The bones and sinews of the country being thus, in a great degree, ex cluded, the same cause next extends itself to the youth and the bealth of the country. The classification of the General Defence Bill, defective as it was, would have brought forward, in the first requisition, no man above thirty years of age; but, the Volunteer Corps system admits men of all ages from seventeen to fifty-five inclusive. In a former paper, written upon this subject, I sta ed any objections founded on the dsparity of temper, habits, and prospects of men, some of whom would be thirty and others only seventeen years of age, some married and others single, some having houses and trading establishments, and others having none. That this objection was by no means futile has, I believe, been allowed by every Member of Parliament; and, with how much greater force does it apply to a body of men including all ages up to fifty-five-The classification of the bill did, too, exclude persons having more than one child; but, the system now adopted makes no such exclusion: the more a man is loaded with cares, the more his heart lans towards home, the stronger and more numerous are the ligatures which bind him to a love of life, the more fit this system supposes him for chearfully marching on a distant and dangerous service! But, are the persons composing the Volunteer Corps prepared so to marchi and so to adventure? Is it with any such intention that they have enrolled, or offered to enroll, themselves? Who that has observed the time of this enrollment, and that considers the propensities of the persons enrolled, will venture to answer these questions in the affirmative? The war has been declated nearly three months: the prospect of invasion was coeval with that declaration; yet not one of the 280,000 men, who are now said to have rashed forward for the defence of their country, ever dream of making such a movement, till a lacu was passed for enforcing a general enrollment, and an immediate training of all men, with very few exceptions, under thirty years of age. Then, and not till then, did we perceive that patriotic spirit, with the praises of which Mr. SHERIDAN chooses to weedle the shop-keeping throng. Far be it from me to say, or to think, that none of the persons, who have

enrolled themselves in Volunteer Corps, have so done from patriotic and gallaut motives; far be it from me to affix such a stigma on my country as to suppose that 280,000 of her sons have assumed the name of Volunteers merely as a screen from the dangers of actual service; but, when I reflect on the propensities of the persons enrolled, and on the time of enrollment, I must bid adieu to my senses before I can believe, that any very considerable portion of them have taken the military habit with an intention of leaving their homes, and of venturing their lives in the field of battle. The motives of this species of volunteering are, 1. to keep out of low company. The merchant wishes to avoid the shopper, the shop-keeper to avoid the mechanic, and all of them to avoid the laboures and the servant; and, as the higher, or rather, the richer classes, can, by the means of regulations of expense, exclude those, with whom they dislike to associate, a subaltern aristocracy arises, an aristocracy of wealth, a loathsome ulcer that seldom makes its appearance till the body politic be already sinking under a complication of diseases.2. To prevent journeymen, apprentices, labourers, and servants from being forced out to the drill. That the masters and their sons should step forward as volunteers, with no other view than that of saving their underlings from bearing the vexation and fatigue of drilling, would, indeed, be rather wonderful, if, by so doing, they did not keep the said underlings at work. The fact is, that, if a master, who does little more than look about him during the day, can, by going to drill himself, keep his apprentice, or his servant of any description, at home, his own time is very well employed. If he be a man, who works himself, drill is a relaxation when compared to labour of any sort, and, as the relaxation must be enjoyed either by his apprentice, his journeyman, his servant, or himself, it is by no means difficult to divine the party to whom his sense of justice will direct him to allot it.-3. Another motive for volunteering, is, not an eager desire to fight the French, but a desire of quite a contrary nature; and, the ministers may be well assured, that, for the great number of volunteers, who have already offered, they are considerably indebted to the notion, that volunteer-corps will never be. marched out of their own districts, or, at querst, never be put under martial law. Whether this latter be a false notion or not. I cannot pretend to say; for the law has been so often altered and amended, that, at

last, nobody knows the meaning of it; but

this I do know, that, if it had been well understood, amongst the persons, to whom the thanks of Parliament have been voted, that they would become liable to be tried by the mutiny act; that a court-martial of three subaltern officers would be able to sentence any one of them to receive a thousand lashes; if this had been well understood, I am certain, that the number of persons to be thanked, would not have been very great. The truth is, I believe, that those who, since the passing of the General Defence Bill, have entered into volunteer-corps, think that their corps stand upon precisely the same footing as the volunteer-corps, whose services were accepted previous to that pe riod. If such be their notion, therefore, they are cruelly deceived, or the nature of their engagements is such as to render them perfectly useless in case of invasion; for, without being liable to be marched to any part of the kingdom, it is a thousand to one, that, in the hour of emergency, they will not be found where they are wanted; and, without being completely subject to martial law, there is no General in his senses, who would suffer them to come within half a dozen miles of his army. These are very important points to be elucidated: are the volunteer corps, whose services are now to be accepted, liable to be marched to any part of the kingdom? And are they, when called into actual service, to be subject to martial law? Immediate satisfaction ought to be given as to these two points. Nothing, as to the conditions, on which the men are to serve, ought to remain for an hour longer misunderstood, or not understood at all, in one of which cases the law now is, with respect even to the magistrates. Let it also be understood, whether or not, men, who have once enrolled themselves in a Volunteer Corps, can quit the said corps; and, if they can, under what circumstances; for, it would be perfectly childish to place any reliance upon corps, the very existence of which depends upon the will of the persons composing them. Is there any provision to insure the drilling of the Volunteer Corps? Are there any means devised to prevent sick, decrepid, feeble, or inflated men from filling up those glorious muster-rolls, which are, it seems, to grace the Journals of the House of Commons? Is there any plan fixed upon for bringing out the several corps, and, for marching them, before an invasion takes place, twenty or thirty miles in a day, loaded with their arms, accoutrements, ammunition, and knapsack, for the purpose of trying their wind and strength? It may,

to some persons, appear rather rude to ask questions like these, as relating to corps, on whom the House of Commons have bestowed a reward far greater than that which they bestowed on the fleet of the Nile or the army of Egypt; but, to these Volunteer Corps we are now taught to look as to the last hope of our country; it, therefore, becomes us seriously to examine into the real situation of these bulwarks; for, in this, as in all other cases, nothing is so fatal as the deceiving of ourselves. An army of regulars must be met by an army of regulars, or the advantage is all on one side. I hope, that the regular army has been considerably recruited since March last, and I trust, that great aid would, in case of necessity, be derived from the militia; from the corps now spoken of, if properly managed, additional assistance may be abtained; but, unless the regular army goes on increasing, I must confess, that my hopes diminish; and, the great objection which I have to a system of Volunteer Corps, is, that it completely destroys the effect of that part of the Defence Bill, which, with a little alteration, might have became so admirably calculated for sending young men into the regular army, and for rendering us a military people. There were several other interesting topics, which arose during the debate on the Vote of thanks. I will just mention them here; postponing, for want of room, a discussion of them till my next. 1. The sort of force which Mr. Windham at first proposed instead of Volunteer corps; 2. The maxims of passive obedience and of oblivion, recommended by Mr. Sheridan; 3. The deficiency of arms, occasioned by a shameful neglect on the part of ministers; 4. The Charge against Mr. Windham of having caused the present war, by persuading Buonaparté that the ministers were a low, pusillanimous, and selfish crew, who would submit to any thing rather than break the peace; which I cannot help making one observation either it was desirable to keep peace, or it was not; if it was, the ministers should have resigned their places to men, to whom Mr. Windham could not, or would not have imputed selfishness and pusillanimity; if it was not desirable to keep peace, then Mr. Windham is entitled to praise for having encouraged the enemy to pursue that line of conduct, by which it was finally broken. The position on which I am here observing, was explicitly stated, both by Mr. Addington and Mr. Sheridan; and, it does, I think, amount to an ample confession of that imbecility, of that want of po litical character, which Mr. Windham has

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