Mr. TнOм. Yes; for the same length of time.

The CHAIRMAN. The Government's expenditures and what you asked for combined?

Mr. THOм. Yes.

Senator ToWNSEND. In that recommendation, of whatever date it was, in your budget of $941,000,000, do you think that that was a proper amount for the Railroad Administration to expend on these properties?

Mr. THOм. I do not know. I am using these figures merely to indicate the extent of the power; and I am not criticizing the Railroad Administration for these expenditures, because I am not well enough versed in the needs of the railroads to do that.

Senator TOWNSEND. They had a right to rely upon your suggestion that that amount would be necessary, did they not?

Mr. THOм. I do not know how that budget was made up. I do not know whether it was made up by the boards of directors or by the Federal managers, or how. But what I am getting at is merely to call attention to the enormous amounts involved.

Senator TOWNSEND. I understand that very well; but there was another thing that occurred to me, and that is that you were complaining, as I gathered, that too much money had been expended; that too much of a burden had been placed upon the railroads?

Mг. THOм. I tried to exclude that idea from the argument altogether. I do not know, outside of the arbitrary allocation of equipment, whether too much money has been spent or not; and, for the purposes of my argument, I consider that immaterial. What I do consider to be material is that you gentlemen, in considering the question of an extension for five years, ought to understand what is involved in the way of power.

Senator POMERENE. Mr. Thom, while we are discussing those figure, let me ask you this: You gave yesterday and to-day certain totals of contracts authorized, including certain totals of betterments and extensions. Is there any objection to incorporating those tables, in their entirety, in the record?

Mr. THOм. None at all, sir.

Senator POMERENE. Then I wish that might be done so that we may have them for analysis.

The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, they will be incorporated in the record.

(The tables above referred to appear in full below as follows:)

[United States Railroad Administration, Director General of Railroads.]

Authorizations and expenditures in connection with work chargeable to capital account.

Amount of work specifically authorized on
D. C. E. Forms 1, 3, 4, and 6 to Dec. 1, 1918.

Amount of expenditures from Jan. 1, 1918, to Nov. 1, 1918.

Percentage of expenditure to amount of work specifically authorized.

ADDITIONS AND BETTERMENTS.

1. Widening cuts and fills, etc.

2. Ballasting.

3.

4. Bridges, trestles and culverts.

5. Tunnel and subway improvements.

6. Track elevations or depressions..

7. Elimination of grade crossings..

8. Grade crossings and crossing signals.
9. Additional main tracks.

10. Additional yard tracks, sidings, etc.
11. Changes of grade or alignment..
12. Signals and interlocking plants..
13. Telegraph and telephone lines.

14. Roadway machinery and tools.

15. Section houses and other roadway buildings.
16. Fences and snowsheds.

17. Freight and passenger stations, etc..
18. Hotels and restaurants..

19. Fuel stations and appurtenances.
20. Water stations and appurtenances.
21. Shop buildings, engine houses, etc.
22. Shop machinery and tools.

23. Electric power plants, substations, etc.
24. Wharves and docks..

25. Coal and ore wharves.

26. Grain elevators and storage warehouses.

27. Real estate.

28. Assessments for public improvements.

34. All other improvements.

Authorizations and expenditures in connection with work chargeable to capital account-Continued.