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House, his knowledge of the several steps | pose that the High Bailiff of Westminster
taken in the course of this day, which had should be called to the bar, to render an
terminated in calling in the aid of the account of the steps he had taken to pro-
military, for the protection of the House vide for the protection of the members on
and its members :—That before the House their approach to the House.
assembled this day, seeing the possibility The Speaker suggested the propriety of
of some lumult or obstruction to the pas. also calling Mr. Baker, the Marlborough-
sage of the members to or from the House, street magistrate, to the bar, as, besides the
he had directed the Serjeant at Arms and communication which he had made to the
Deputy Serjeant, with their messengers, to High Bailiff of Westminster, he had also
keep the lobby clear of all strangers, be applied to that gentleman.
fore the House met, and so long as it Mr. Croker explained, that when he
should continue to sit : That he haù sent said he had not seen any peace-officers,
the Deputy Serjeant at Arms to the High he meant on the outside of the door; for
Bailiff of Westminster, to signify to him when he came from the House into the
the necessity of his special attention, this lower lobby, he then found abundance of
day, to ihe esecution of the orders deli- them.
vered to him at the beginning of each Mr. Fitzgerald, on hearing of the danger
session, for keeping free the approaches to which his hon. friend had been ex-
to the House during the time of its sitting : posed, had proceeded with ten or twelve
That he had also desired that a Middleses peace officers to his rescue. With this
magisirate, belonging to one of the public force he had attempted to effect his pas-
offices, might attend with a sufficient sage as far as the carriage-way, but such
number of constables, to keep a free pas were the numbers and the strength of the
sage from the lobby to the entrances from mob, that they could not be penetrated.
Westminster-hall and old Palace-yard Mr. Whitbread said, it appeared the po-
respectively; and that if the civil power lice officers were placed where they ought
should ultimately prove to be inadequate not to have been, instead of the place in
for the protection of the House and its which they could have been of service.
members, he should then, and not till Mr. Ponsonby conceived that the first
then, call in the military, to maintain the step to be taken was to ascertain what
peace: That soine time in the course of had been done by the civil power which
this evening, before the House resolved had the charge of the avenues without the
itself into the committee upon the corn House, and what degree of civil force had
laws, he received a complaint from a been called in. On constitutional prin-
noble lord, a member of this House, that ciples, the military force ought not to
he had been grossly insulted by a mob in have been called in, if the civil power
Palace yard, who had demanded bis were sufficient for the protection of the
name, and his promise to vote against the House and its members.
Corn Bill; neither of which demands the The Attorney General said, it so hapo
noble lord had complied with ; and that pened, that he was perhaps the last mem-
he had, with the greatest difficulty, and ber who had entered the House by its
at the imminent hazard of his life, made usual avenues. To avoid passing through

way into the House; and that there the throng, he drove to the entrance-gate upon be (the Speaker) had sent out his of Westminster-ball. When his carriage directions to the civil officers to call in arrived there, the door was opened, and the military ; and for these directions he he was asked who he was, by nuinbers, who accounted himself to be responsible to the also insisted on knowing how he meant to House; who, he doubted not, would be vote on the Corn Bill. He was aware, satisfied that he had done no more than that for years past he had been too well his duty.

known in Westminster to be able to disMr. Whitbread said, after this statement, guise himself. He was never ashamed of the House must be satisfied that a military his name, nor could he conceal it; and force had not been called in without suffi- many, probably, knew him well enough. cient cause. The hon. Secretary of the He said to the people, • I won't deceive Admirally, however, having stated, that you, nor will I state what my vote will the civil power had neglected to perform be. I sball certainly act according to the their duty, he thought it was essential dictates of my conscience, after hearing that the House should examine into that this measure fully discussed. Valess you circumstance. He should, therefore, pro- pursue a different conduct, you, and all


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of you, may regret your present attempt House, did he decline expressing his unto overawe members of parliament; and qualified approbation of the measure; 10 if my life were in danger, I would sa which he should give his warm support. crifice it in such a case as this. Some of Sir Frederick Flood declared, that he the mob said, he had always been the had been carried above a hundred yards friend of the people. He thought that on the shoulders of the mob, just like among so many, all might not think of mackarel from Billingsgale-market, and him so handsomely.

Some, however, that he thought they meant to quarter formed an escort for him through the hall bim, [A laugh.] to the steps ascending to the lobby. The Speaker entreated the hon, member, There again be found an immense number, in a matter of such deep importance, to not to be resisted by mere peace officers. abstain from all argument or narration, There again, they called upon bim for a unless he had something material to say pledge; they urged the sufferings of the on the subject. poor during a long war, and desired not Mr. Wynn thought, that as the proper io be offered up to the interests of the course of proceeding was now betore Irish. He told them there, that he had them, it was best to postpone all observano objection to state his sentiments; that tions for the present. parliament would certainly do its duty; The question for calling in Arthur but that if something were not done, they Morris, esq. tbe high bailiff of Westminmight have soon to depend for their exist. ster, was then put, and carried nem. con. ence on foreign bread. He asked them to Mr. Morris was then called in; and in let bim return bome. Some of them who answer to the questions put to him by Mr. were friendly to bim, told him he could Speaker, stated, " That yesterday he renot do that, as several members had been ceived a note from Mr. Becket (the very roughly handled. He succeeded in under Secretary of State in the Home de. a kind of bargain with his friends on the partment); and, as directed, took mea. outside, and they permitted him to get sures for calling out all the civil force in in. The assemblage altogether was of his jurisdiction. That be ordered the such a nature as to excite serious alarm. high constable to issue precepts to call The House ought unquestionably to need out all the petty constables, appointing no aid but that of the civil power; but them to be in attendance this day in the case became quite different when an various parts of Westminster : that the additional force was absolutely required. whole number of constables under his au

Mr. Finlay said, that coming down with thority is about 80; and as many came a noble friend of his, they were surround as could come : they came between two ed by a tumultuous assemblage, just as and three o'clock ; and are here now; they were getting out of the carriage. he placed them himself, and has been He himself was assailed with sticks, and here ever since ; some were stationed in his friend had his coat and waistcoat torn. Westminster-ball, some in the stone lobby, The mob was such as could not be dis some within the entrance doors; and persed but by a military force.

they remained in their places as far as he Sir Robert Heron shewed the skirt of his could see. coat, which hung nearly torn from the • That the civil force under him is a body, and said, that besides this he could small part of the civil force of Westminshew other visible marks of the treatment ster: and during every afternoon of the he had received. Instead of finding the session, and till the House separates, some mob as patient and mild as the bon. and of his constables (as many as appear to be learned Attorney General, he had expe- necessary) are in constant attendance. rienced nothing but the most brutal treat “ Of his 80 constables, about 50 atment, and after having been buffeted tended to-day, or belween 40 and 50; he about like a shuttlecock between two found this force, joined with all the force battledores, he escaped, with great diffi- of the police offices, quite insufficient to culty, to tell his lale. [A laugh.] He restrain the mob; he did not take any said, he had not intended to deliver any step to remedy this, because knowing the sentiment on the subject, though his opi- Bow-street magistrates were also here, he nion on it had been long decided. But relied on them to do so. He had no now, when it was attempted to terrify the power over any constables but his own : House into submission to a mob, he should he did not inform any officer of the House, think himself unworthy a seat in that that the civil power was aci strong (VOL. XXX.)




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enough; he relied on Mr. Baker and Mr. came to relieve sir Nathaniel Conant with Birnie, whom he knew to be at hand; but another party of constables: he himself he had no communication with them : went to look outside of the door once or he had seen a military force here, within twice; saw a great crowd at the entrance a quarter of an hour or half an hour; and of the members waiting-room ; he saw he did not hear of any before.

members obstructed; the constables atA written return of the constables who tempted to get them in safely, and were attend, is made daily to Mr. Wilson, who principally occupied in that: they did acts under him: he does not know that not take any rioters into custody ; bis own any person has been taken into custody, exertions were directed to providing for for any breach of the

peace within the the personal safety of the members; he avenues of the House." And then he did not send a message to recall sir Nawas directed to withdraw.

thaniel Conant; he was gone, and he did Mr. Baker, a magistrate of the Marl- not know where to send for him.” And borough-street Police-office, then then he was directed to withdraw. called in; and, in answer to the questions Mr. Kinnaird, a magistrate of the Thames put to him by Mr. Speaker, stated, " That Police-office at Wapping, was then called' he is a police magistrale of the Marlo in; and, in answer to the questions put to borough-street office; that in consequence him by Mr. Speaker, stated, " That he is of the direction of the Speaker, as well as a magistrate of the Thames Police-office at from lord Sidmouih, he attended at the Wapping, and received orders last night House of Commons at iwo o'clock, with to bring up the establishment to-day, to 50 constables; he understood the parti- preserve the peace at Westminster: ii was cular duty assigned to him by the Speaker ordered by lord Sidmouth, that one mato be, the care of the stone lobby, and gistrate from each office should attend the stone stair-case, and that the avenues him at twelve o'clock this day; he had between were kept clear,

himself been here the greater part of the “ None of his constables were outside; day; some of his constables waiting from but a parly under sir Nathaniel Conant: two o'clock at the Temple-bar, and the he was aware of the difficulty of restrain- rest of his party was stationed from Paring the mob outside, but found no difficulty liament-street to Charing-cross: the estainside ; much difficulty for the last hour blishment of the Thames Police-office is and half: was fully satisfied that the about 50 constables or thereabouts; some civil force was insufficient, and advised to of them were placed in Westminster-hall, call in a military force : having received some at the side entrance and other ave. a message from the Speaker to that effect, nues near the House : he observed the be went to the Horse-guards himself, and disturbance and anxiety of the mob to get brought down with him iwo troops of into the avenues to the House ; he saw horse for that purpose. That at different no obstruction to members, and was not times the constables within assisted those called upon to give assistance to any other without, when their services were wanted. magistrate : he was at the bottom of the

" That he does not know that any per- stone stairs within side, about 10 o'clock; son has been taken into custody for a when outside he saw no pushing, shoving, breach of the peace, within the avenues or hooting: he did not come in the place of the House : that he had not seen any of sir Nathaniel Conant; his station was actual assault; but there was a great deal sometimes inside, sometimes outside ; when of hooting and ballooing in the street op- occasionally outside, he was attended by posite to the Abbey."

some of his peace officers; he is uncertain Being asked, how many constables whether he saw any members go in or were with sir Nathaniel Conant, and come out; he saw no persons obstructed.” what degree of assistance they gave? he and then he was directed to withdraw. replied, That he did not know the exact Mr. Birnie, a magistrate of the public number, 20-or 30 at least; and that there office Bow-street, was then called in; and, was a general concurrence amongst all the in answer to the questions put to him by constables, in trying to give assistance Mr. Speaker, staled, " That he is a police where most needed: he does rot know magistrate at the Bow-street office ; he the total number of constables. Sir Na- attended at three o'clock with 40 constathaniel Conant was called to another part bles; most of them were placed in Palaceof the town two hours before the military yard; some were at the side entrance, force iwas called in; but Mr. Kinnaird where he saw a great mob, and many

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members justled, bissed and hooted : he Lord Castlereagh was adverse to any and his constables did not apprehend any such proceeding this evening, as the alperson for breaking the peace; he saw tendance of these magistrates might be no ringleaders; a mere mob without die necessary at their several stations. lle rection; and he was occupied, as the first however observed, that no absolute blame object, in protecting members of parlia appeared to him fairly imputable to the ment; one of his constables has been conduct of the magistrates. wounded with a stone; but the offender Mr. Addington concurred in this opinion, escaped through St. Margaret's church- observing, that the principal magistrale, yard : the civil force was insufficient; sir N. Conant, had been called away by he brooght 40 from Bow-street; each of riots in another quarter of the town. The the other police offices sent 7 or 8; he right hon. gentleman vindicated the mea. believes 7; the Thames Police office sent sures taken by the Executive. a larger number than the rest.” And Mr. Whubrend thought that the Exethen be was directed to withdraw.

cutive had done iis duty, but was inclined Lord Castlereagh rose again and said, to believe that the civil power bad not that the e videoce appeared quite sutăcient been sufficiently active. to establish the necessity of the interpo The minutes were ordered to be printed, sition of the military for the protection and taken into furiber consideration on of the members of parliament. Whether Monday next; also that the said high the conduct of the magistracy had been bailiff and magistrates do then attend. It as vigilant as possible, was a point that was likewise ordered, That the said bigh might become a question of inquiry. A bailiff and magistrates do repais to their future day might be appointed, with a several posts forth with, and prevent any view to inquire into that matter, and to further outrage or disorder in the passages provide more certainly for the security of to and about the House, during the time members upon future occasions. He then the House shall continue to sit ihis even. moved that the minutes be printed. ing, and until after the departure of the

Mr. Lambton expressed himself satisfied members. with the explanation which had been afforded with regard to the employment of Corn Bill.) The House then resolved the military on this occasion, but vindi- itself again into a committee on the Corn cated his motives in bringing the business Bill. under the consideration of the House. Mr. Baring required to know upon what

Lord Castlereagh was convinced the hon. ground it was that 80s. had been fixed gentleman had no other motive for the upon as the price necessary to the encourse which he had pursued than that couragement of the farmer, as no explana. just jealousy which ought to be entertained lion upon this point had yet been given of the employment of a military force, by the authors of this Bill? where the exertion of the civil power The gallery was not re-opened during might be deemed insufficient.

the remainder of the evening; but we Mr. Wynn thought the House under understand that the following members great obligations to the hon. gentleman. participated in the debate which ensued, The discussion was necessary, that the viz. Mr. Basing, the Chancellor of the House might show ils just constitutional Exchequer, Mr. Marryatt, Mr. Alderman jealousy. Though satisfied on the chief Atkins, and lord Castlereagh. point, yet he thought the conduct of the Lord Casılereagh contended strenuously magistrates open to inquiry. They did that 80s. was noi too bigh a price in the not appear to have been sufficiently active, present situation of the agriculture of the and he thought they should be admonished country. He reprobated the principle of by the Speaker, and desired to pay a making it a temporary measure. Some strict regard to their duty in future, since permanent regulation was indispensably a similar inconvenience might recur even necessary, and every parliamentary proto-morrow.

ceeding was revocable at the discreiion of Mr. Whitbread was convinced that the the Legislature. On a subjeet so calculaied military were not called in till it was ne. to agitate the popular mind it was not decessary, but perhaps the civil power had sirable to protract or multiply discussion. not done its duty. He thought they had

He thought they had For the sake of the lower orders, who betier continue this business then, and were affected not so much by an actual proceed with the Corn Bill on another day, price as by uncertainty or fluctuation, he

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wished to see the Bill before the committee | return to which he had already alluded, pass into a law.

the Marshal of the court of King's-bench, Mr. Baring replied to the speech of who was the gaoler of this prison, received the noble lord, which he considered as the a gross profit of 2,300l. per annum, from least argumentative and the most decla- which he had to pay the salaries of the matory that had been delivered on the under gaolers ; but his nel profils amount. subject.

ed to between 1,2001, and 1,300l.; and The committee then divided :-For the yet notwithstanding this he employed no Amendment, 77; Against it, 208; Majo- medical person to attend a community of rity, 131. The House then resumed, and 600 persons who were placed under his the report was ordered to be received on The next prison to which he wished Wednesday.

inquiry to be directed was the Fleet pri-
son, which was under the care of the lord

Chief Justice of the Common-pleas. This

prison was calculated to hold about 200
Tuesday, March 7.

persons; but in 1811, he learnt that, there MOTION FOR A COMMITTEE ON KING's were no less than 769 persons confined Bench, Fleet, AND MARSHALSEA Prio within its walls. Here, too, as in the SONS.) Mr. Bennet rose, in pursuance of King's-bench there were no allowances his notice, to move for the appointment of food, fuel, or bedding; nor was there of a select committee, to inquire into the any medical attendant provided for the state of the King's-bench, Fleet, and Mar. benefit of the prisoners, although ihe net shalsea prisons. It would be in the recol- profits of the Warden amounted to 1,0001. lection of the House, he said, that a com- The Marshalsea prison was the last which mittee of inquiry had been appointed in te should propose to include in the present the last year to examine into the state of inquiry. This prison was devoted to the gaol of Newgate and other gaols in Admiralty prisoners, and to those of the the city of London; and the attention of Palace-court, who were of the poorest this committee had been the means of class. The same inattention was here relieving the 'great distress, which pre-paid to the state of the prisoners as in the vailed among the inmates of those recep- other gaols; but the prison itself was inuch tacles of the unfortunate. Although those more wretched, and the state of its inmates prisons were not yet in such a state as proportionately miserable, while sir James they ought to be, he conceived the inter- Bland Burgess received 3001. a year, for ference of the House had done much being its keeper. On a petition being towards correcting the evils which existed. presented some years ago, an inquiry was The first prison which he wished to bring instituted into the death of an unforiunate under the notice of the committee was the man who died there, it was supposed from King's-bench prison. This prison was under hunger. That miserable being had been the immediate care of the Chief Justice; obliged to feed on bones, potato-peelings, and from the papers which were on the and the scanty charity of the other pritable of the House, it appeared that on soners, as no allowance was made to the the 1st December, 1814, there were no prisoners of food, bedding, or fuel, and less than 837 persons in the custody of there was no medical attendance. Fees the marshal; of whom 600 were collected were, however, exacted to the amount of within the walls, the rest being dispersed | 10s. 10d. Misery was only one part of in the Rules. And yet from the evidence the picture; in these prisons were exhisubmitted to the House of Lords, when an bited scenes of vice and profligacy which inquiry took place into this subject, the it would be difficult to parallel elsewhere, prison did not appear to be calculated for as appeared from the inquiries of the comthe reception of more than 200 or 220 mittees, and that of 1792 in particular. persons. He could also tell the House, Having stated these facts, he ihought it that the individuals confined in this prison was unnecessary to enler further into had no allowance of food, of fuel, or of detail, conceiving that he had shewn suffibedding; nor was there any medical cient ground for the inquiry which he attendant appointed to administer to their wished to take place into the state of these wanis in the hour of disease. Added to prisons. The hon gentleman concluded this, the lees were extremely high, amount. by moving, « That a committee be aping to one pound three or four shillings pointed to inquire into the state of the going out and in. According to the King's-bench, Fleet, and Marshalsea pris

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