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COMMONS, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 11.

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MERCHANT SHIPPING Acts, 1871 AND 1873–PROSECUTIONS FOR UNSEAWORTHY

SHIPS—Question, Mr. E. J. Reed ; Answer, Sir Charles Adderley .. 850

MERCHANT SHIPPING Act, 1873–SEAMEN REFUSING TO GO TO SEA-Question,

Mr. E. J. Reed; Answer, Mr. Assheton Cross

851

UNSEAWORTHY SHIPS BILL— DECK CARGOES—Question, Mr. E. J. Reed;

Answer, Sir Charles Adderley

851

IRELAND-INTERMEDIATE EDUCATION—MODEL SCHOOLS—Question, Mr. Ward;

Answer, Sir Michael Hicks-Beach

852

RAILWAY TRAINS_COMMUNICATION BETWEEN PASSENGERS AND GUARDS
Question, Mr. H. B. Sheridan ; Answer, Sir Charles Adderley

853

Post OFFICE THE TREASURY COMMISSION ON TELEGRAPHS Question,

Mr. E. J. Reed; Answer, Lord John Manners

854

NAVY-REPORTED DISORDERS ON BOARD H.M.S. “ TRIUMPH". -Question,

Mr. E. J. Reed ; Answer, Mr. Hunt

854

LANDED ESTATES COURT (IRELAND) — Question, Mr. Kavanagh ; Answer,

Sir Michael Hicks-Beach

854

LAW AND JUSTICE-DEGREE OF SERJEANT-AT-LAW—Question, Sir Charles

W. Dilke; Answer, The Attorney General

855

CRIMINAL LAW – THE CASE OF ROBERT GORDON Question, Mr. Sherriff;

Answer, Mr. Assheton Cross

856

CRIMINAL LAW THE CASE OF COLONEL BAKER — Question, Mr. Edward

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Jenkins; Answer, Mr. Assheton Cross

857

METROPOLIS-LIGHTING OF St. James's PARK-Question, Mr. J. G. Talbot';

Answer, Mr. W. H. Smith

858

IRELAND – THE HARBOUR OF ARDGLASS—Question, Mr. J. Ormsby Gore;

Answer, Mr. W. H. Smith .

858

MERCANTILE MARINE-The Loss of THE “COSPATRICK” “Question, Mr.

—THE OF

Hayter; Answer, Sir Charles Adderley

858

PARLIAMENT THE PROROGATION - Question, Mr. Dillwyn; Answer, The

Chancellor of the Exchequer

859

Increase of the Episcopate Bill (Bill 110]—

Moved, “That the Order for Committee be read and discharged,”—(Mr.

Beresford Hope)

859

After short debate, Motion agreed to :-Order discharged :-Bill with-

drawn.

SEA WALL, SHEERNESS—Question, Mr. E. J. Reed; Answer, Mr. Sclater-

Booth

860

Agricultural Holdings (England) Bill (Lords)-

Consideration of Lords Amendments

861

After short debate, Lords Amendments agreed to.

EAST INDIA REVENUE ACCOUNTS-REPORT-

Resolution [9th August] reported

864

After short debate, Resolution agreed to.

Offences against the Person Bill-

Order read, for resuming Adjourned Debate on Question [5th July:]

Question again proposed :-Debate resumed

866

An Amendment agreed to; one disagreed to.

Committee appointed, " to draw up Reasons to be assigned to The Lords for disagreeing

to the Amendment to which this House hath disagreed:”—List of the Committee 868

Reasons for disagreeing to one of the Lords Amendments reported, and agreed to:-

To be communicated to The 'Lords.

PARLIAMENT PUBLIC HEALTH (IRELAND) Act — ADJOURNMENT OF

HOUSE-

Moved, “That the House, at its rising, do adjourn till Friday at 12

o'clock,”—(Mr. W. H. Smith)

868

After short debate, Motion agreed to.

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Relying on the wisdom of Parliament, I do

HOUSE OF LORDS, not desire that the powers reserved to Me by

the Act of Union of making creations and pro-

Monday, 26th July, 1875.

motions in the Peerage of Ireland should stand

in the way of the consideration by Parliament

MINUTES.] – Sat First in Parliament — The of any measure that may be introduced on that

Lord Lovat, after the death of his Father.

Public Bills First Reading

Naturalization* (226); Alkali Works* (227);

PRINCE EDWARD'S ISLAND.

Chain Cables and Anchors * (228); Issue of

Writs during Recess * (229); Meeting of

OBSERVATIONS.

Parliament* (230); Parliamentary Proceed-

ings (Oaths and Costs) (231) ; Public

Schools * (232).

attention of the Secretary of State for

Second Reading — Statute Law Revision (194); the Colonies to the Act of the Colonial

Summary Prosecutions Appeals (Scotland)' * Legislature for the compulsory purchase

(191); Conspiracy and Protection of Pro- by the Local Government of Prince Ed-

perty (220) ; Employers and Workmen

ward's Island of all or any of the estates

(218).

Committee - Report-Washington Treaty (Claims of the British proprietors in that island,

Distribution) * (216).

and to ask what steps have been

taken by Her Majesty's Government

THE IRISH PEERAGE.

to protect the just interests of those

HER MAJESTY'S ANSWER TO ADDRESS.

proprietors; and, whether the amount

payable to them for the purchase of

The Queen's Answer to Address their rights is limited to the sun

of the 9th instant reported as follows :- eight hundred thousand dollars men-

VOL. CCXXVI. (THIRD SERIES.]

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tioned in the Act? The noble and learned that if the law of the island were laxLord said that he considered this subject as in some respects he believed it was, to be one of great importance. For some this fact again would tell against the protime past what might be termed a “land prietors. The Commissioners were also question " had existed in the island. empowered to open up old questions The numbers of the owners of the soil whether the original conditions of grant were very small, and a strong demo- had been observed by the proprietors. cratic feeling prevailed in favour of the The Act purported to be one for changing compulsory sequestration of the land by leasehold into freehold tenures; but aii the tenants who held of them. This that it really did seemed to be to give to was not a new state of things in many the local Government power to acquire countries; but in Prince Edward's Island the land compulsorily from the proprieit had had considerably sway, the Local tors, while it did not give the tenants Legislature being more or less com- any statutory right of purchase. Mr. pletely elected by those whose influence Childers was going out as one of the was on the tenants' side. The conse- three Commissioners and the representaquence was that great efforts had been tive of the Governor General, and he made to bring about this result. Last wished to ask the noble Earl the Secreyear a very similar Act to that to which tary for the Colonies whether any inhe was now alluding passed the local structions had been given to Mr. Childers Legislature but failed to receive the to take a reasonable view of the rights Royal Assent, the Governor General in of the proprietors under the Act, and Council stating in a despatch to the whether Her Majesty's Government had Lieutenant-Governor of the island, that been able to do anything which would he was advised the Act was objection- lead to justice being done to the proable, because it did not provide an im- prietors ? Otherwise there was reason to partial arbitration for the purchase of believe that the true value of the land this property. The Act of 1874 was would be largely depreciated in the also objected to, because it was subver- course of the inquiry by the Commissive of the rights of property, harassing sioners. He wished also to ask the and ruinous to the owners, and a dan- noble Earl, whether the amount payable gerous precedent by the encouragement to the proprietors for the purchase of it held out to agitation. The Act of this their rights was limited to the sum of year differed from the Act of 1874 in $800,000, which he believed had been creating a more satisfactory tribunal for paid by the Canadian Government in the adjustment of these cases. Three consideration of the recent Federation? Commissioners were appointed-one by THE EARL OF CARNARVON: My the Governor General of Canada, one by Lords, I find some little difficulty in rethe local Government, and the third by plying in any detail to the noble and the Island proprietors. In 1860 the learned Lord, and for this reason—that proprietors, most of them resident in the Act which he has brought under the this country, were very willing to settle notice of your Lordships is not an Act all disputes, and the matter was referred which has been passed in the ordinary to Commissioners, who reported that course of Colonial legislation. In the the basis of compromise should be ordinary course of Colonial legislation an that the lands should be valued at Act passed by the Colonial Legislature 20 years' purchase, the purchase-money is sent home to this country, either for being regulated by the amount of rents sanction or disallowance by the Crown; stipulated to be paid. This compromise and, of course, the responsibility in such had never been carried out. An Act had cases rests with the Minister who advises now been passed which bore very harshly the Crown. This Act, however, stands upon the proprietors. The Commis-on a different footing. It is passed by sioners were to settle the amount to be the Provincial Legislature of the Domipaid, taking into consideration not how nion of Canada ; and under the Canadian much rent had been reserved, but how Federation Act of 1867 it is provided much was paid, so that proprietors who that Acts so passed shall be allowed or had been lax in enforcing their rights | disallowed, not by the Crown on the would suffer accordingly. The Commis- advice of the Minister in England, sioners were also to consider what was but by the Governor General. This Act the probability of recovering rents; so has followed the usual course. It has

Lord Penzance

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