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employer would not consent to certain gress in legislation upon the subject as terms they proposed. The consequence appeared to give satisfaction to the great was that the iron got cold; and as it body of the working classes. was impossible to melt the iron again unless the furnace was taken down, this

Motion agreed to; Bill read 22 accordhad to be done at a cost of £2,000. ingly, and committed to a Committee of Their Lordships would see that it was

the Whole House on Thursday next. impossible to recover damages of such Then amounts from the workmen, who had no means of raising such sums.

EMPLOYERS AND WORKMEN BILL read said that the 5th clause in the present 2(according to order), and committed Bill would give a remedy in such cases, to a Committee of the Whole House on but he doubted this, as it would be very

Thursday next. difficult in all cases to prove that the offence had been committed “wilfully,

NATURALIZATION maliciously, and knowingly." Under the 14th clause of the Master and Ser: (1.1.] (NO. 226.) A Bill to consolidate and vant Act a remedy was provided in the ization : Also,

amend the Acts relating to Aliens and NaturalCriminal Law. He agreed, however, that that clause ought at once to be repealed-it was an inconvenient and ill- ALKALI WORKS BILL [H...] (No. 227.)

A Bill to consolidate and amend the Acts redrawn clause, and did great injustice to lating to the regulation of Alkali Works : those who came under its operation; Also, and he was also of opinion that Her Majesty's Government had done right

CHAIN CABLES AND ANCHORS BILL (H...] in dividing the subject into two classes. (no. 228.) A Bill to consolidate and amend From the first he felt the difficulty of the Acts for regulating the proving of Chain dealing with the question of conspiracy, Cables and Anchors : Also, and he was much obliged for the information the noble and learned Lord had just given the House respecting it.

ISSUE OF WRITS DURING With regard to intimidation, the Go - (H.l.] (no. 229.) A Bill to consolidate and vernment had taken the right course. during a recess of the House of Commons :

amend the Acts relating to the issue of Writs If the Bill should do away with the Also, heart-burnings which had been occasioned in former years among the work

OF PARLIAMENT BILL (1.L.] ing classes, and if it should be followed by greatly conciliating the feelings the Acts relating to the summoning and meet

(No. 230.) A Bill to consolidate and amend of the employer and the employed, ing of Parliament: Also, he thought that all classes of the community would have grateful recollections of the measure now brought forward. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS (OATHS He suggested, however, that acts com- AND COSTS) BILL (H.L.] (No. 231.) A Bill mitted knowingly should be separated the administration of Oaths in both Houses of

to consolidate and amend the Acts relating to from those committed maliciously and Parliament and the awarding of costs in prowilfully, and the offenders tried, not by ceedings upon Private Bills : And also, a sumimary proceeding, but by a jury.

LORD ABERDARÈ said, that having taken part in former legislation on this PUBLIC SCHOOLS BILL (H.L.] (no. 232.) subject, he begged permission to say a

A Bill to consolidate and amend the Acts refew words on the measure before their lating to certain Public Schools in England : Lordships. The Master and Servant Were severally presented by The Lord ChanAct was no doubt a great step in ad- CELLOR; read 10. vance, and under this Bill the same law

House adjourned at half past Nine would continue to apply in cases similar

o'clock, till To-morrow, to the gas case. He was, however, con

Eleven o'clock. tent to take the Bill in its present form, but he did not think that under it the danger of agitation was altogether removed. He recognized in it that pro




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FRANCE, ITALY, AND AUSTRIA. Monday, 26th July, 1875.


MR. BUTLER-JOHNSTONE asked MINUTES.]— RESOLUTION IN COMMITTEE the Under Secretary of State for Foreign

East India, Auditor of Accounts, &c. [Super: Affairs, Whether he can hold out any annuations; Sheriffs Substitute (Scotland) confident hope to the House and to the

[Salaries]. Public Bills-OrderedFirst ReadingEccle- country that the treaties of commerce

siastical Commission Act Amendment * between this country and France, Italy, [266]; Restriction on Penal Actions and and Austria, two of which are shortly Redemption of Penalties * (267); Sanitary shortly about to lapse, will be renewed,

Law (Dublin) Amendment * (268).
First Reading--Copyright of Designs * [270].

and on terms equally favourable to this Select Committee-Registration of Trade Marks* country as the expiring treaties ? [242], Mr. Hermon disch.

MR. BOURKE: Sir, the French Committee- Agricultural Holdings (England) treaty expires in June, 1877, if de(re-comm.) (222)--R.P.

nounced. The Austrian expires in Committee- Report--Militia Laws Consolidation and Amendment (re-comm) [202]; Elemen- December, 1876, if denounced. The tary Education Provisional Order Confirmation Italian will expire June, 1876, and has (London)* [251]; Local Government Board's been denounced. As to France and Provisional Orders Confirmation (Abingdon, &c) * (253); Local Government Board's Pro Austria, no denunciation has been made. visional Orders Confirmation (Aberdare, &c.) *

The time, therefore, has not arrived (254]; Traffic Regulation (Dublin) [244];

when it is expedient to make any public Justices of the Peace Qualification * (151j; announcement upon the subject. As to Legal Practitioners * [46].

Italy, negotiations are going on with reReport-Public Works Loans * [243-269). Third. Reading-Lunatic Asylums (Ireland) * spect to the Treaty, and no efforts shall

[189]; Public Records (Ireland) Act, 1867, be wanting on our part to bring them Amendment* [233]; Contagious Diseases to a satisfactory conclusion. Many in(Animals) Act, 1869, Amendment * [250], fluential Members on both sides of the and passed. Withdrawn-Offences against the Person Act Government are giving the subject

House are aware that Her Majesty's Amendment * (250); Pollution of Rivers * (252); Savings Banks, &c. * [198]; Drugging serious and anxious consideration, and of Animals * [235].

they are also aware that the views of

many commercial bodies in this country MERCHANT SHIPPING ACTS AMEND.

have been communicated to my noble MENT (No. 2) BILL AND UNSEA

Friend at the head of the Foreign Office. WORTHY SHIPS.

I need not say that Her Majesty's GoMOTION AND NOTICES.

vernment will continue to use every

effort to base our commercial relations MR. ROEBUCK : I beg to move that with all foreign countries on sound printhe Merchant Shipping Acts Amendment ciples. (No. 2) Bill be fixed for second reading on Thursday next.


QUESTION. SIR CHARLES ADDERLEY: I give MR. WILLIAM M'ARTHUR asked Notice that on Wednesday next, I will the Chief Secretary for Ireland, If he can move for leave to introduce a Bill to state why it is that while clerks connected make provision for giving further powers with several of the Irish Public Offices to the Board of Trade for stopping Un- and other officials belonging to the Irish seaworthy Ships.

branch of the Civil Service have been MR. DILLWYN: To-morrow, at 2 placed on a footing of equality with o'clock, I will ask the Prime Minister, those in a corresponding position in Eng; if he will give precedence over the other land, the district inspectors of national Orders of the Day to the Merchant Ship- schools in Ireland have not been placed ping. Acts Amendment (No. 2) Bill, in the same position as to salary and which has been introduced by the hon. allowances with those in England, in Member for Derby, and which will accordance with a Resolution of the stand for second reading on Thursday House of Commons of the 4th July, 1873, next.

recommending the same?


SIR MICHAEL HICKS - BEACH : /writing an intemperate letter to a reSir, in consequence of the Resolution of lieving officer. The letter was addressed the House of Commons in July, 1873, to the Board of Guardians. But his referred to by the hon. Member, a De- offence could hardly be said to be conpartmental Committee was appointed by fined to the writing of that letter. His the late Government to inquire into the conduct had been the subject of numecase of various officials belonging to the rous and repeated complaints on the Irish branch of the Civil Service. In part of the Local Government Inspectors that inquiry the Treasury was repre- during a long series of years; and, upon sented, and also the Departments on reviewing the whole circumstances, I which the inquiry was held, and the could not come to the conclusion that I result has been a very considerable im- should be justified in re-opening the provement in the position of various case. parties employed in the Irish Civil Service. I am quite aware that there

ARMY-YEOMANRY AND VOLUNare some cases in which parties holding nominally the same position as

TEERS-PAY OF ADJUTANTS. officers in England have not been placed on precisely the same footing;

COLONEL NORTH asked the Secretary and Inspectors of Schools are in that of State for War, If any decision has class. Although the name of the office been arrived at as to the pay of adis the same in both countries, there is a difference in the position of the officer jutants of Yeomanry and Volunteers ?

Mr. GATHORNĚ HARDY, in reply, and his duties; but the position of these

said, that the Commission on the pay of Inspectors has been very considerably adjutants of the Yeomanry had comimproved. There were three classes pleted its Report, although all the under the old system. The first class Members had not yet signed it. The had a salary commencing at £450 and

question of their pay would, therefore, rising by £10 yearly to £500. The

soon be ripe for consideration. As to salary now commences at £500 and rises by £15 per annum to £600 a-year. The adjutants of Volunteers, some questions

as to certain Brigade Depôt arrangesecond and third classes have had a

ments were still pending, and their case similar increase; and the position of

must therefore stand over for some time these classes has also been


improved as to their allowances for tra-
velling and personal expenses.



the Exchequer, Whether he is able to DR. LUSH asked the President of the inform the House what are the intentions Local Government Board, Whether the of Her Majesty's Government as to the statements of Mr. Hammett Hailey, a adoption of the recommendations of the medical officer of the Newport Pagnel Civil Service Inquiry Commission ? Union fortwenty seven years, in a Petition THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEpresented to this House July 7th and QUER: Sir, the Commissioners have printed in the Appendix (No.526) havere- sent in three Reports to the Government ceived his attention; and, whether the and have now completed their labours. dismisal of Mr. Hailey from his office for I must express our great gratitude to the alleged offence of writing an intem- them, and especially to my right hon. perate letter to a relieving officer (subse- Friend the Member for the University quently apologized for) will be re-con- of Edinburgh (Mr. Lyon Playfair), for sidered by the Board ?

the great pains they have taken. The MR. SCLATER-BOOTH: Sir, the Reports are very interesting and very case of Mr. Hailey has received my suggestive; and they raise questions most careful attention. I am aware of both of principle and detail, the applithe Petition presented to the House and cation of which will require careful conthe statements contained in it. It is not sideration. The Government has been correct to say that he was dismissed for making inquiries in particular offices with a view of seeing how far the prin-making a difference of 68. 3d. per diem ; ciples of the Reports could be applied to and the difference in the ranks of them. We are not at present in a posi- Colonel, Captain, and Lieutenant being tion to give a definite answer, but the 11d., 6d., and 4d. respectively; whether matter is engaging serious consideration, this anomaly did not in fact originate and we hope in the course of the Recess from some clerical mistake, and, if not, to arrive at some conclusion.

what reason can be alleged for its exist

ence; and, whether it is anticipated that POST OFFICE-TELEGRAPHS AND

the Report of the Commission now sitting RAILWAY COMPANIES.-QUESTION.

on Army Promotion will throw any fresh

light upon the subject ? MR. MONK asked Mr. Chancellor of

MR. HUNT in reply, said, he could the Exchequer, Whether any award has not inform the hon. and learned Membeen made in respect of the claims of ber whether the Report referred to would certain Railway Companies for com- throw any fresh light on the subject of pensation for the transfer of their tele- what the hon. and learned Member graphs to the Government; and, also called an anomaly in the pay of the whether the payment of such awards colonels second commandant of Marine has been provided for in the Vote already Light Infantry. The only way of retaken in Committee of Supply?

moving the alleged anomaly would be THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHE- by the process of "levelling down;" but QUER: Sir, an important award has he did not think that that would meet been given in the case of the arbitra- the view of the hon. and learned tion between the Post Office and the Member. Great Eastern Railway. The amount which was claimed by the railway com

PUBLIC BUSINESS-THE SAVINGS pany was £504,000; the amount which was awarded was £77,000; that sum

BANKS BILL.-QUESTION. has been provided, but it has not been MR. LYON PLAYFAIR asked Mr. voted in Supply, nor is it necessary or Chancellor of the Exchequer, Whether proper that it should. The money will it is the intention of the Ĝovernment to be taken from the capital authorized to proceed with the Savings Banks Bill be raised by loan under the Telegraphs during the present Session ? Act a few years ago. The powers of THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEthat Act are not exhausted, and they are QUER: Sir, the Savings Banks Bill more than sufficient to meet this claim. was introduced with the limited object One or two other claims by railway of stopping a deficiency which had been companies are under consideration, but increasing many years, and which still of course I am unable to say what the goes on increasing, in these accounts. awards may be.

There had been some misunderstanding

with regard to the nature of the Bill; NAVY—THE MARINE LIGHT INFANTRY discussion it has gone through, and I

but I think it was fully removed by the -PAY OF OFFICERS.—QUESTION.

feel confident if we were to persevere MR. GORST asked the First Lord of with the discussion, there would be no the Admiralty, When it is intended to doubt as to our being able to satisfy the remove the anomaly in the pay of the House and the country with regard to the Colonels Second Commandant of character of that proposal. My right Marine Light Infantry, whereby those hon. Friend has given Notice that he officers receive 58. per diem less than will endeavour to graft on this Bill an the sum which would be in proportion important proposal — namely, that we to the pay of the corresponding rank of should take into consideration the quesMarine Artillery, and of the other ranks tion of Savings Banks reform. That is of their own corps, the pay of the Colonel so large a question that it would be imCommandant of Artillery being 408. per possible to deal with it at the end of a diem, and of the Light Infantry 388. 6d. Session; it is, therefore, our intention per diem, making a difference of 18. 6d. not to proceed with the Bill during the per diem; of the Colonel Second Com- present Session, but to take up


quesmandant of Artillery 268. 3d. per diem, tion next Session, and to deal, as is and of Light Infantry 20s. per diem, absolutely necessary, with the question

The Chancellor of the Exchequer

of the deficiency, and also, I hope, with SIR CHARLES ADDERLEY: Sir, the larger question raised by the right the Board of Trade officers have not hon. Gentleman.

power to detain any ship. They report

to the Board of Trade, and the Customs' PUBLIC BUSINESS-PUBLIC WORKS officers detain by directions from the LOANS BILL LOCAL AUTHORITIES

Board of Trade. It is proposed to insti


er class of Board of Trade

surveyors at the principal ports; and I THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHE- hope the Bill which I have given Notice QUER: I promised to take this oppor- of for Wednesday will give the requisite tunity of making a statement as to two

powers. other Bills which are under my charge. One is the Public Works Loans Consolidation Bill, which has been referred PUBLIC BUSINESS — THE MERCHANT to a Select Committee. That Committee

SHIPPING ACTS.-QUESTION. has concluded its labour; it is important LORD FRANCIS HERVEY asked the that the Bill should be passed, if pos- President of the Board of Trade, Whesible; and I have great hopes that when ther he will next Session, together with it is again brought forward the House a Bill to amend the Merchant Shipping will have no difficulty in accepting and Acts, introduce a Bill to consolidate the passing it this Session. With regard to same ? the Local Authorities Loans Bill, I am SIR CHARLES ADDERLEY: Sir, in this position—it has been very care- I hope the Government Bill to amend fully considered, a great many objections the Merchant Shipping Acts will be that were taken to it have been, as I among the earliest measures of next hope, obviated, and from what reaches Session. I have no intention of attemptme I am inclined to think that the Bill ing a Consolidation Bill at present; but may be accepted without much discus- the House is aware that I have prepared sion. If that should prove to be the and published a Digest of all existing case, I shall be glad to proceed with it. Merchant Shipping Acts, with a very If, however, it is likely to lead to much full and complete Index, which may to a discussion, it would have to be laid aside great extent serve the purpose of a Confor want of time; but I shall keep it on solidation Act. the Paper until I see the feeling of the House with regard to it.



CAPTAIN PRICE asked the Surveyor MR. RIPLEY asked the First Lord General of Ordnance, On what system the of the Treasury, Whether it is the in-81-ton guns are to be rifled, and what tention of Government to proceed with nature of projectiles are to be used; whethe Pollution of Rivers Bill this Session? ther he will state to the House the great

MR. DISRAELI: I regret to say, est and next greatest number of batterSir, that I think it would not be possible ing charges which have been fired from for us to proceed with this Bill during any 35-ton or 38-ton gun rifled on the this Session. The President of the Woolwich system, without requiring Local Government Board, therefore, will repairs (including re-venting); whether take an early opportunity of moving it is a fact that the process of re-venting that the Order be discharged.

cannot be performed on board ships at

sea in the presence of an enemy; wheMERCANTILE MARINE-DETAINING

ther he is aware that although the stock UNSEAWORTHY SHIPS.

of projectiles on board ship may be re

plenished at a distant seat of war, guns QUESTION

of 35 tons or 81 tons weight cannot be MR. EUSTACE SMITH asked the replaced without sending the ship home; President of the Board of Trade, Whe- and, whether he can state to the House, ther any officer who considers a vessel that it has been shown by actual experioverladen has power to detain such vessel ment or otherwise, that our heaviest pending the receipt of instructions from guns can stand such a practical test as the Board of Trade ?

they might be put to in war time; and,

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