HANSARD'S

PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES,

THIRD SERIES:

COMMENCING WITH THE ACCESSION OF

WILLIAM IV.

34° VICTORIE, 1871.

VOL. CCV.

COMPRISING THE PERIOD FROM

THE FIFTEENTH DAY OF MARCH 1871,

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THE FIRST DAY OF MAY 1871.

Second Volume of the Session.

LONDON:

PUBLISHED BY CORNELIUS BUCK,

AT THE OFFICE FOR "HANSARD'S PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES,"

23, PATERNOSTER ROW. [E.C.]

TABLE OF CONTENTS

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VOLUME CCV.

THIRD SERIES.

COMMONS, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 15.

Railway Companies Bill [Bill 5]—

Moved, "That the Bill be now read a second time," (Sir Henry

Selwin-Ibbetson)

Amendment proposed, to leave out the word "now
" and at the end

of the Question to add the words "6 upon this day six months,"

-(Mr. Leeman.)

Question proposed, "That the word 'now,' stand part of the Question:"

-After long debate, Motion made, and Question, "That the Debate

be now adjourned,"-(Mr. Denison,)—put, and negatived.

Question again proposed, "That the word เ now stand part of the

Question.

But it being now a quarter to Six of the clock, Further Proceedings

adjourned till To-morrow.

Salmon Fisheries Bill-Ordered (Mr. Dodds, Mr. Liddell, Colonel Amcotts, Earl Percy,

Colonel Edwardes); presented, and read the first time [Bill 75]

University Tests Bill (No. 26)-

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LORDS, THURSDAY, MARCH 16.

Moved, "That the Bill be now read 2a,"-(The Earl of Kimberley)

After short debate, Motion agreed to:-Bill read 2 accordingly.

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COMMONS, THURSDAY, MARCH 16.

ART AND SCIENCE MUSEUM (EAST LONDON)-Question, Mr. Reed; Answer,

Mr. Ayrton

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WINES IN BOND-Question, Sir James Lawrence; Answer, The Chancellor

of the Exchequer

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LICENSING BILL (IRELAND)-EXCESSIVE DRINKING IN PUBLIC HOUSES-

Question, Mr. Pim; Answer, The Marquess of Hartington

DESTRUCTION OF HISTORIC MONUMENTS-Question, Captain Dawson-Damer;

Answer, Mr. Bruce

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THE JUDICATURE COMMISSION-Question, Sir Thomas Lloyd; Answer, Mr.

ARMY-NON-PURCHASE CORPS-Question, Major Arbuthnot; Answer, Mr.

Cardwell

Bruce

ARMY-HENRY-MARTINI RIFLE-Question, Mr. Muntz; Answer, Sir Henry

Storks

NAVY-THE "MEGÆRA "-Question, Mr. Kavanagh; Answer, Mr. Goschen

GREECE FINANCIAL COMMISSION-Question, Mr. Monk; Answer, Viscount

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[March 16.]

CIVIL SERVICE EXAMINATION-PASSED CANDIDATES-Question, Mr. Cubitt;

Answer, The Chancellor of the Exchequer

METROPOLIS-NEW BUILDINGS FOR LEARNED SOCIETIES, PIOCADILLY-Ques-

tion. Lord John Manners: Answer, Mr. Ayrton

QUEEN'S MESSENGERS-Question, Mr. Stopford-Sackville; Answer, Viscount

Enfield

ARMY-VOLUNTEERS AND YEOMANEY-Question, Mr. Hambro; Answer, Mr.

Cardwell

TREATY OF PARIS 1856-THE CONFERENCE-Question. Sir Charles W.

Dilke: Answer, Mr. Gladstone

THE EDUCATION ACT-CHAIRMEN OF SCHOOL BOARDS-Question. Mr. Watkin

Williams: Answer. Mr. W. E. Forster

NAVY-THE “MEGLERA"-Question, Mr. F. Walpole; Answer, Mr. Goschen

NAVY-DOCKYARD COAL CONTRACTS-Question. Mr. A. Guest: Answer, Mr.

Goschen

MILITARY ATTACHES Question. Colonel White: Answer. Viscount Enfeld'

Army Regulation Bill Bl 39 —

Onder read. for resuming Adjourned Debate on Amendment proposed to

Question 24 March That the Bill be now read a second time:

and which Amendment was

To leave out from the word "That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the

VICIS * A Le Minion of this Eros, the expenditure necessary ice the national defences

and the scher demants on the Exchequer do not at present rest fr any Vote of Puble

Noner Sze the exzetion of Purchase the Army,”— Cucati Levi Lindary, —instend

Cadiz ani proposed. “That the words proposed to be left out stand
part of the Cheeton: "—Debate resumed

Afte Kinz Bebate, More That the Debate be now aljzel”

betes Sport — Chestiin pat:-The House diided: Ayes 187.
Nos 284: Majority St.

Chestion &rain proposed. That the wonds proposed to be left out stand

part of the Chesin-After some discussion. Mored, “That this House

be now shijoan”— Ke. Robert Forles-Question put:-The House

ā mākās Ares 147. Noes 256; Majority 109.

Questing apaiz perposed. “That the words proposed to be left out stand
part of the decka: "-Delate ansing:-MondThat the Debate be
Desirmed”— S-Zenos Ephinstone?—Ürestito pan and agreed to.
Ind- The the Debate beslenmed till this day, at Two of the clock"
I el Fawn :—Word. “That the Debate be now alfommed"

— SubBack: —The House divided: Ayes 104. Noes 208;

Hestia & in pood - That the Debate be adjomed

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LORDS, FRIDAY, MARCH 17.

ARMY-POWDER IN STORE-ADDRESS FOR RETURNS-

Moved, That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty for the following Returns :-

1. Amount of serviceable cannon Powder of all sorts in store on the 1st January 1869,

specifying the quantities under the heads of L. G., R.L.G., Pellet, and Pebble Powder,

and distinguishing the amount in made-up ammunition :

2. Ditto, on 1st January 1871:

3. Amount of R.F.G. Powder for small arms on 1st January 1871 :

4. Colonel Younghusband's Report on the supply of Gunpowder, dated March 1869, and

any subsequent Report by Colonel Younghusband on the same subject,-(The Earl of

Carnarvon)

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After debate, Motion amended, and agreed to.

Address for-

"1. Amount of serviceable cannon Powder of all sorts in store on the 30th September

1868, specifying the quantities under the heads of L.G., R.L.G., Pellet, and Pebble

Powder, and distinguishing the amount in made-up ammunition :

"2. Ditto, on 30th September 1870:

"3. Amount of R.F.G. Powder for small arms on 30th September 1870."-(Parl.

Paper, No. 71.)

Prison Ministers Bill (No. 37)—

Moved, "That the Bill be now read 2',"-(The Earl of Morley)

After short debate, Motion agreed to:-Bill read 2 accordingly, and

committed to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.

County Property Bill (No. 35)-

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Moved, "That the Bill be now read 2a,"-(The Duke of Richmond)

After short debate, Second Reading put off to Thursday next.

Lunacy Regulation (Ireland) Bill [H.L.]-Presented (The Lord O'Hagan); read 1a

(No. 47)

COUNTY COURT JUDGES-Question, Mr. G. B. Gregory; Answer, The

Attorney General

INDIA-LAHORE AND PESHAWUR RAILWAY-Question, Mr. Ridley; Answer,

Mr. Grant Duff

POST OFFICE-NEW POSTAGE AND MONEY ORDER SCHEMES-Question, Mr.

Neville-Grenville; Answer, Mr. Monsell..

INDIA-INDIAN CIVIL ENGINEERING COLLEGE-Question, Mr. Plunket;

Answer, Mr. Grant Duff

ITALY-DISTURBANCES IN THE CHURCH OF THE GESU, ROME-Question, Mr.

Synan; Answer, Viscount Enfield

FRANCE-PRECAUTIONS AGAINST PESTILENCE-Question, Mr. Assheton Cross;

Answer, Viscount Enfield ..

ARMY-TRANSFERS FROM THE LINE TO THE MILITIA-Question, Colonel C.

Lindsay; Answer, Mr. Cardwell

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ARMY-SMALL POX-3RD SURREY MILITIA-Question, Mr. Peek; Answer,

Mr. Cardwell

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WORKSHOP REGULATION ACT (1867) AMENDMENT BILL

Macfie; Answer, Sir David Salomons

POST OFFICE - TELEGRAPH SERVICE AT PORT MADOC Question, Mr.

Holland; Answer, Mr. Monsell

NAVY-H.M.S. "MEGERA"-Question, Mr. Kavanagh; Answer, Mr. Goschen 174

NAVY-WORKING OF SHIPS GUNS-MONCRIEFF'S PLAN-Question, Major

ORDER IN DEBATE-PERSONAL EXPLANATION-Observations, Mr. Cavendish

Bentinck; Reply, Mr. A. Peel

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POSTPONEMENT OF NOTICES OF MOTION-Observations, Mr. Gladstone;

Reply, Mr. J. Lowther

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